zom-zom wrote:

ginandtacos.com wrote: For instance I have been through Dayton many times. It sucks. It is boring. I do not want to live there, ever. But if you really think it is the worst city in America then you need to travel a little more. It might not even be in the bottom 20.

Perhaps you need to travel a little more.

Who cares anyways? It's all personal preference. This has nothing to do with facts.

Dayton, OH it is.

Right. Take a spin through Gary.

Minotaur029 wrote:Grand Rapids, MI (You can visit the Gerald Ford Museum).

Sault Ste. Marie, MI...it was actually kinda neat in a way...you can go into Canada and drink when you're 19 if you want if you go to the school there...but no.

I disagree with these. Sault St. Marie is really NOT BAD considering it's in the UP which is like no-man's land. There are many worse places in the up. I almost went to lake superior u. The surroundings are truly beautiful, the air is clear and you're surrounded by nature. There may not be a lot to do in the UP but from May through September the scenery and weather are amazing.

Grand Rapids isn't a great city, but it isn't horrible either. The Intersection gets some good bands.

Just because there's been so many michigan cities on this list, here's my opinion of the BEST michigan cities. These are the places that your band could probably expect to get a good turnout, given it's a legit venue and a popular local supporting band that did decent promotion.
Lansing/East Lansing
Detroit + surroundings
Ann Arbor/Ypsi
K-zoo
Grand Rapids

Detroit doesn't suck because of the poverty/eerie nobody's home vibe, it sucks because the "scene" consists mostly of cokehead hipsters. But there's a scene there, and some really good bands and venues. Any band would be stupid to skip detroit on their midwest tour.
For the worst cities in michigan, I'd say Flint, Muskegon, Howell, Benton Harbor and Jackson.

But the number one worst place in michigan (not a city by any stretch) is East Jordan. Horrifying.

Duluth. No contest.

some honorable mentions:

Fargo ND/Moorhead MN : wasn't quite worst because all the folks there are really nice and polite

Carson City, NV: even the snow and humble capitol building can't de-fugly this city. Without the mountains to the west, this would be THEE worst.

cervixFORaHEart wrote:judging by this thread most of america sucks.

Well, most of the world sucks, so there you go.

RearEntryPants wrote:Duluth. No contest.

Duluth is almost beautiful. Love Duluth.

Superior on the other hand, (or other shore) is horrible. I lived there for a year.

ginandtacos.com wrote:

zom-zom wrote:

ginandtacos.com wrote: For instance I have been through Dayton many times. It sucks. It is boring. I do not want to live there, ever. But if you really think it is the worst city in America then you need to travel a little more. It might not even be in the bottom 20.

Perhaps you need to travel a little more.

Who cares anyways? It's all personal preference. This has nothing to do with facts.

Dayton, OH it is.

Right. Take a spin through Gary.

I have, probably dozens of times. At least they have the lake.

apparently you people have never been to el paso. Detroit is bad, el paso is worse.

I think detroit is almost fascinating though.

austin nv.
every one is related, through more than just marriage.
kissin cousins/uncles

shivers

If we're going to expand this into a worldwide discussion, I find it hard to believe many places could surpass Calcutta. It heartily deserves its reputation.

Although I haven't had the misfortune of traveling to many of Africa's megaslums. I bet those are worse. Lots.