Think it got done in the old forum… not here
Lots to consider - I saw them touring Slanted and enjoyed the vinyl up to BTC…. All good things
After watching the doc have been deep diving and really re-appreciating the hell outta brighten the corners - a great record. Wowee zowee comes across as lazy and bratty to me - like they’re trying to piss people off - not so much gold on that one
I’m a big silver Jews fan too, so that helps
Serve up yr love/ hate/ ambivalence
Re: 90s band: Pavement
2I like Malkmus more in every other thing he's been involved with.
"And the light, it burns your skin...in a language you don't understand."
Re: 90s band: Pavement
3I think all their records range from Good to Fantastic.
Even the last album from '99. The recording is amazing.
Slanted must be my least fave, ironically.
Wowee Zowie blew me alway back in the day.
Even the last album from '99. The recording is amazing.
Slanted must be my least fave, ironically.
Wowee Zowie blew me alway back in the day.
Re: 90s band: Pavement
5They were/are great.
An embarrassment of great tunes, more than anyone else.
Always engaging live, almost never just good--incredible yes, disastrous yes, rarely anything like boring.
Underrated musicians. Ibold is a great bass player. Stephen was always good and willed himself (yes, he worked at it) into being a really terrific guitarist, fluid and busted-up in all the right ways.
One of my favorite of all band dynamics I have ever come across, both onstage and offstage.
I think anyone who snarks about them or whatev might think about what it took for those guys to make Slanted and Crooked Rain...and then decide you know what fuck it we're going this way and they make Wowee Zowee--their best album but also the small-scale version of making Time Fades Away and On the Beach right after Harvest.
They said "fuck this" to the whole circus when they (accidentally) had more on the line than almost anyone else at that time.
Anyway, who cares about that.
Massively not crap. And somehow I liked that movie, i was sure I would hate it.
An embarrassment of great tunes, more than anyone else.
Always engaging live, almost never just good--incredible yes, disastrous yes, rarely anything like boring.
Underrated musicians. Ibold is a great bass player. Stephen was always good and willed himself (yes, he worked at it) into being a really terrific guitarist, fluid and busted-up in all the right ways.
One of my favorite of all band dynamics I have ever come across, both onstage and offstage.
I think anyone who snarks about them or whatev might think about what it took for those guys to make Slanted and Crooked Rain...and then decide you know what fuck it we're going this way and they make Wowee Zowee--their best album but also the small-scale version of making Time Fades Away and On the Beach right after Harvest.
They said "fuck this" to the whole circus when they (accidentally) had more on the line than almost anyone else at that time.
Anyway, who cares about that.
Massively not crap. And somehow I liked that movie, i was sure I would hate it.
Re: 90s band: Pavement
6Was blown away by slanted and the early stuff. A fantastic mix of noise, repetition, pop tunes and damaged suburban apathy. I absolutely love it - obvs since I bought Steves copy of Perfect Sound for a price I'm only proud of because Heather gets most of it.
Crooked Rain seemed a little mersh to me at the time, but fuck it's a great record. Close to perfect again.
Wowee seemed inaccessible to me in all the right ways. Druggish, rambling, a little incoherent.
From then on recording wise I was uninterested - that may change, I dunno.
For a good decade I couldn't listen to them - had just heard it too many times and there was other shit to do you know?
Saw them at a super uninspired show in Austin after wowee zowee where some doofus got up on stage and knocked over some of their equipment early, pissing off the band. I'd seen the show the night before in Houston where they fucking slayed. A friend saw them after slanted opening for SY and said they were all business and just crushed the set. So, you know, the usual.
Saw them last year at Levitation and they were great. The kids seem to just love it.
Huge fan, not crap, never waffles, they followed the art where it took them even if it's not all for me (maybe).
Crooked Rain seemed a little mersh to me at the time, but fuck it's a great record. Close to perfect again.
Wowee seemed inaccessible to me in all the right ways. Druggish, rambling, a little incoherent.
From then on recording wise I was uninterested - that may change, I dunno.
For a good decade I couldn't listen to them - had just heard it too many times and there was other shit to do you know?
Saw them at a super uninspired show in Austin after wowee zowee where some doofus got up on stage and knocked over some of their equipment early, pissing off the band. I'd seen the show the night before in Houston where they fucking slayed. A friend saw them after slanted opening for SY and said they were all business and just crushed the set. So, you know, the usual.
Saw them last year at Levitation and they were great. The kids seem to just love it.
Huge fan, not crap, never waffles, they followed the art where it took them even if it's not all for me (maybe).
Re: 90s band: Pavement
7I really hated Pavements on first viewing.
That being said, it's possible I unfairly judged it by comparing it to Louder Than You Think, which came out almost around the same time, was just as quirky, but was actually great. Maybe it's time to give it another try.
jason (he/him/his) from volo (illinois)
Re: 90s band: Pavement
8I’ve never figured out the allure of this band. People tell me to listen to the early stuff, and it still does nothing for me.
They get a solid crap in my universe.
They get a solid crap in my universe.
Re: 90s band: Pavement
9Have loved them since first hearing "Cut Your Hair" on either MTV or the alt-rock station when I was 11/12. There's no other record that feels as "summer" to me as Crooked Rain. Everything up through and including Wowee Zowee is the shit; these days I probably mostly rock the Watery Domestic EP, and it wasn't until months after he was born that my wife and I realized that people might think we cribbed our son's name from this song:
I'm the weird one who actually like Terror Twilight more than Corners!
Never saw them on the original run or the first reunion run, but when my wife and I saw them a couple of years ago they slayed. Pulled out songs from deep in the catalog I never expected, everyone played and sounded great.
I'm the weird one who actually like Terror Twilight more than Corners!
Never saw them on the original run or the first reunion run, but when my wife and I saw them a couple of years ago they slayed. Pulled out songs from deep in the catalog I never expected, everyone played and sounded great.
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Re: 90s band: Pavement
10Picked up Perfect Sound Forever when it came out, saw them for free when they toured it (and the "Summer Babe" single) in '91, and became an immediate fan, practically running out to buy the first two EPs (which you could still find, but just barely). The early band dynamic was bizarre: gifted sloppy songwriter, meat and potatoes rhythm guitarist, the Dustdevils' bass player, an extra standup drummer who sits out half the songs but somehow manages the chaos, and an old drunk hippie on drums who's actually a killer musician when he's relatively coherent. The early documents consisted of oddball, pleasantly scrappy, catchy rock songs assaulted by fucked-up noise.
Slanted and Enchanted was a big step forward and almost felt like a cultural moment or something, at least in my little world. It certainly seemed more worthy of my attention than the "grunge" revolution from a year or two before. Along w/Watery Domestic, it was practically a perfect record, never mind how popular this seemingly thrown-together band was becoming. The shows were often a damn mess, but there was a lot going on musically when the lead guitarist wasn't pouting and the drummer wasn't too blotto. Plus the songs were great.
I still really liked Crooked Rain, even though a lot of the weirdness (Malkmus starts mining '70s rock) and rhythmically interesting stuff (no more Gary) was melting away. Wowee Zowee seemed like a weed-damaged wink (or was it a sneer?) and I pretty much checked out after that, although I always appreciated a song or two, even on the deservedly maligned Terror Twilight (but "The Hexx," man).
Haven't deeply investigated the reunion stuff, although I saw and liked Louder Than You Think and there's some fun, sloppy, early live material on the worthwhile soundtrack LP.
Not crap. Some waffles for eventually sorta turning into just another indie rock band. Does that make me a "fuck, yeah!" or an "it's cool" voter? I dunno.
I'm still baffled that kids love them now (mostly for the cutesy, slightly hippieish songs) b/c a throwaway, late-period B side became popular sans context (some girl dancing to it on TikTok?).
Slanted and Enchanted was a big step forward and almost felt like a cultural moment or something, at least in my little world. It certainly seemed more worthy of my attention than the "grunge" revolution from a year or two before. Along w/Watery Domestic, it was practically a perfect record, never mind how popular this seemingly thrown-together band was becoming. The shows were often a damn mess, but there was a lot going on musically when the lead guitarist wasn't pouting and the drummer wasn't too blotto. Plus the songs were great.
I still really liked Crooked Rain, even though a lot of the weirdness (Malkmus starts mining '70s rock) and rhythmically interesting stuff (no more Gary) was melting away. Wowee Zowee seemed like a weed-damaged wink (or was it a sneer?) and I pretty much checked out after that, although I always appreciated a song or two, even on the deservedly maligned Terror Twilight (but "The Hexx," man).
Haven't deeply investigated the reunion stuff, although I saw and liked Louder Than You Think and there's some fun, sloppy, early live material on the worthwhile soundtrack LP.
Not crap. Some waffles for eventually sorta turning into just another indie rock band. Does that make me a "fuck, yeah!" or an "it's cool" voter? I dunno.
I'm still baffled that kids love them now (mostly for the cutesy, slightly hippieish songs) b/c a throwaway, late-period B side became popular sans context (some girl dancing to it on TikTok?).
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