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Wood Goblin wrote:Before you try therapy or medications, cut back on the booze (if you're a drinker), eat as healthfully as you can, and exercise frequently. And I mean exercise hard.

I have suffered from various forms of depression for much of my life. I cannot second this advice more fervently. Get the bad, unnatirual shit out of you and get the good, natural shit moving through you and then evaluate where you're at. I almost guarantee you'll be in a better place form which to consider your feelings once you can see and feel them clearly.

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funny how a lot of these things are solutions and problems i can relate to myself. hard to identify something until somebody kind of puts the words in your mouth, for this situation at least. actually i'm only speaking for myself.

i've been on zoloft for a year and a half-ish, and i myself dont notice the difference with myself. I don't feel different, the problems i was told would be helped are there, yet i'm told that taking this is helping me.

like i said, i never noticed the difference in myself, but certain people (actually only family) claim to notice when i dont take my pills for awhile. i always find this a bit fucked up since i never feel a difference either way.

i dont mean to rant on and on about this shit, but i have been starting to think about changing my prescription. depression runs in the family so im sure it effects me, but i want something that i can feel as though, is accomplishing something and not something to make other people feel better about how im so much safer now. anyway, i dont know if this sounds like the case, but if this sounds like something that a different prescription might help, let me know. i need the help, thanks.

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rayj wrote:
Braden wrote:
NerblyBear wrote:The things that make me depressed have nothing to do with a chemical imbalance in the brain. These are: a shitty, repetitive day job; irritating people; bad music; and sitting through bad movies. These are the worst things in the world.


This isn't the case at all. Most of these day-to-day annoyances are easy to laugh off when in the right frame of mind.


Just a note:

My experience of a severe depressive episode wasn't emotional at all. It was a complete LACK of emotion, mixed with a TOTAL lack of motivation. As in, unable to get out of bed. Unable to even think about doing anything. Completely flat emotional affect. I was dying to feel something, anything. Luckily, it hasn't happened for years.

Pretty horrible. Wouldn't wish it on most people.


Was it medication or time that got you through this episode?
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Braden wrote:
rayj wrote:
Braden wrote:
NerblyBear wrote:The things that make me depressed have nothing to do with a chemical imbalance in the brain. These are: a shitty, repetitive day job; irritating people; bad music; and sitting through bad movies. These are the worst things in the world.


This isn't the case at all. Most of these day-to-day annoyances are easy to laugh off when in the right frame of mind.


Just a note:

My experience of a severe depressive episode wasn't emotional at all. It was a complete LACK of emotion, mixed with a TOTAL lack of motivation. As in, unable to get out of bed. Unable to even think about doing anything. Completely flat emotional affect. I was dying to feel something, anything. Luckily, it hasn't happened for years.

Pretty horrible. Wouldn't wish it on most people.


Was it medication or time that got you through this episode?


There were multiple episodes. The medication helped land me in a job that was unbelievably stupid (re: complaint line telemarketing type crap). I immediately stopped it, after going the whole month it took to achieve the desired effect (Zoloft). Then, the suffering/homelessness associated with trying to scratch out a living forced me into a kind of 'combat' mode, where I literally couldn't afford to be depressed. Plus, clinical depression is extremely BORING, and my typically american need for excessive stimulation/consumption provided some impetus for breaking the cycle. Waking up in the park with a pistol shoved in your face will do wonders for your motivation...

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I can vouch for Zoloft and Xanax. But I think the meds will get you into a state conducive to benefitting from councelling from a psychologist which I'd imagine would have more permanent results. Also I think It's clearly important that you experience a reasonably good first impression when dealing with a therapist or else in my experience it won't work out. Again, a healthy a diet is a must. Vitamin B complex can help with stress too.

I’ve also read about a non-prescription food supplement called 5-HTP that’s derived from a plant (griffonia seed?) extract.

It’s related to Tryptophan which got banned after a health scare around the time that Prozac was being approved. The manufacturing of 5-HTP is supposedly very safe and it’s claimed that the chemical works very much like an SSRI anti-depressant but with few side effects and less brain metabolism disruption.

Meditation has also been shown to help with depression but I've never quite managed to get the hang of it.

Warning : Longish, slightly dull, bummer-esque post follows. Feel free to stop reading here.

I’ve suffered from depression and social phobia for twenty years. My family background virtually dictated that I’d be pretty fucked up.

On my maternal grandfather's side of the family, all of my great aunts and uncles were in and out of hospital their whole lives with absolutely paralyzing attacks depression – like, they won’t get out of bed, won’t talk, eat, drink, wash etc . My mother and my uncle and aunt have all been hospitalized at least a couple of times with the same thing. My mother was post-natal depressed and refused to even go near me for the first eighteen or so months of my life. (Ahh).

My grandfather attempted suicide one morning by stabbing himself in the neck with a kitchen knife. He got unlucky and survived but with brain damage caused by the blood loss, essentially a self inflicted stroke. I believe he eventually died at least partially as a result of drug called (I think) chlorapromazine which was notorious for having a fine line between a safe and toxic dose. Lots of psych patients cardiac arrested on this drug during the ‘80s and early ‘90s.

My paternal grandmother was a war bride abandoned by a Canadian soldier in WW II and both my uncle and father have serious low self esteem issues. My father also has had a real problem with alcohol the whole time I’ve know him and that’s really messed me up and helped wreck my parents marriage. My uncle despite being a damn nice guy is a neurotic love shy recluse who never left home or married.

I’ve never been hospitalized for my depression but when the blues come I’m fucked. Everyday shit just feels like such a mammoth effort like wading thru quicksand. Thoughts about suicide (detailed plans) just completely occupy mind and I can’t think straight.

My social phobia is also just ridiculous. I once went to Christmas dinner with my girlfriend’s family. I walked in, said “Hi” to everyone and five minutes later I was climbing out of the window of a downstairs bedroom, fleeing in terror. My social phobia even extends to timidity about posting on this anonymous forum.

I been to a several analysts and couldn’t stand any of them. I went to a couple of psychiatrists who prescribed various cocktails of meds. I can’t remember most the names. Some made me feel mildly better and some made me shake uncontrollably, some gave me a hugely increased appetite even for food that I’d previously detested like crunching on chicken bones. None of them made me feel anywhere near what I imagine as “normal”. When one course of meds started messing with my liver, plus the med bills began to bite, I rather rashly just quit outright and then tried to muddle along as best I could. After couple of years of highs and lows and spiky mood graphs it all got a too much again.

I went to my GP this time and he prescribed Xanax and Zoloft. I’ve been taking them for several months now and these two drugs along with Melatonin to sort out my erratic sleeping patterns have made me feel distinctly better. Some days are better than others but in general I feel much more optimistic and motivated. The first few weeks on these meds made me feel almost bullet-proof. Without doubt this is the longest time I managed to feel better than OK for at least twenty years.

Unfortunately around this time, some bestially primitive Cypriot motherfucker poisoned a couple of my cats and another fucktard temporarily blinded another one with a shot gun blast. I felt so enraged and helpless that this overcame the effect of the meds for a short while.

Now I’ve sort of recovered from this trauma, I’m not depressed anymore but unfortunately my social phobia came back with a vengeance. I’m trying to work thru it slowly and the situation is improving but it’s still a problem so I’m looking into cognitive behavioral therapy.

Anyway, good luck.

MVS

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[quote="beelzebubbles"]

I need help, but I'm kind of leery of the antidepressants... I would gladly go to therapy, but that shit is expensive. I guess I'm a victim of the good ol' US of A's health care system. I can't even get a doctor's appointment without having proof of health insurance. If anybody has some suggestions or recommendations, specifically for the Chicago area....maybe a free mental health clinic...?[/quote]


Try C-4 (not the explosives, it is the name of the clinic). It is on Clark just south of Lawrence. They have a sliding fee scale (means tested???).
Also, Heartland Health Outreach (corner of Lawrence and Sheridan) which offers general free health services. Most of their clientele are homeless persons so they may charge you if you have an income, but they shouldn't shun you altogether if you have no health insurance.

I have no actual experience with either of these clinics, but my wife worked as a case manager for homeless persons in the Uptown area up until Spring of this year, so she is the one who knows about them.

Hope this helps, I don't know if you will find what you want but it should be worth a try if you are having issues with "for profit" health care providers.

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I'm surprised by the amount of people being so positive about medication. I have been to my GP a couple of times for anxiety and both times they were very against putting me on medication.

I was a bit gutted by this as I wanted some easy quick fix solution to the occasional panic tunnel I fell into (which admittedly has only happened a couple of times but is certainly not nice when it does). However, said doctor advised the old exercise, eat right business and added that I might want to try something like yoga/meditation. If I feel the panic coming on now it is fairly simple for me to just calm myself down and I'm glad I didn't get the pills as I'm sure they would soon have become an unneccessary crutch.

I'm not saying pills are always bad, obviously it is all case specific, but i would exhaust natural ways of trying to get your head straight before resorting to them. A friend of mine who depends on pills for his mental health starts to have an immediate episode if he doesn't have the pills with him at the right time. I am fairly near certain that the episode he had when i was with him was caused by reliance on the drug and wouldn't have happened otherwise.

Again I'm not saying don't use them (my friend does seem to need them unfortunately) I'm just saying that there are negatives to using them. There are no negatives to doing a bit of yoga

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some people are plagued by such problems more permanently than others.
i find what helps is basically any form of creative output. i usually draw or i play guitar and make tapes.
its when your creating, even if its ugly or not what people like, you are doing what you yourself were naturually created to do.

try it and let me know how it works.
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I currently take lexapro for anxiety/depression. It doesn't mess with me, side-effects-wise, as much as the various others I have been on in the past. One thing that really disturbs me about taking these pills in general is the attendant weight gain I've experienced. I know this weight gain it not supposed to exist (according to the drug companies' propaganda) but it is true. I've put on 25 pounds or so...
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