seeeeeeee guys.

the todd thinks brendan canty is a good drummer.
nothing you guys can say can persuade me otherwise now cos fuck it, you ain't the todd, boy.

also, i always thought stephen perkins was a pretty good drummer too so what the fuck do i know?

Hearing the drumming on the first Shellac album sort of chainged my random improv sort of drumming style (I used to make up alot of my fills as I went along - not a bad thing necessarily) of 8 years or whatever to a more solid style, and I've never gone back (for 'rock' type stuff anyway).

P.S

The drum sound on that album is pretty much my perfect drum sound.

tommydski wrote:seeeeeeee guys.

the todd thinks brendan canty is a good drummer.
nothing you guys can say can persuade me otherwise now cos fuck it, you ain't the todd, boy.

also, i always thought stephen perkins was a pretty good drummer too so what the fuck do i know?

what is up what people thinking brendan is a bad drummer? i remember people syaing shit like "last thing fugazi needs is louder drums" on this found , and i found it very odd. he really thinks about what to play and how to play it.. eh, opinion are like assholes, huh? but i like his style a lot.
and uh, i like jane's addiction.
and primus
and i love victims family. whoever played on the second album (things i hate to admit) is a monster.

I was ready to sign up with Todd until I read the "Drum Kit W/ Cowbell Lessons require an additional $25 per hr." part...

tommydski wrote:also, i always thought stephen perkins was a pretty good drummer too so what the fuck do i know?

Jane's Addiction is like a funk-metal dumbed down version of Yes. They should be paying royalties for how badly (emphasis on badly) that Perry is aping Jon Anderson... If you do not believe me, go bust out "Fragile" and put it on "South Side of the Sky". This is one of the Yessongs that built JA's career. Then, put on an acoustic strummer like "And You and I" from Close to the Edge, and this is the other half of JA's career that they ripped off from Yes (without the complicated composition... Just take 4 measures from "And You and I"). No one I know who listens to JA has heard any of these Yes albums (except the single version of Roundabout on the classic rock station), so they are none the wiser... If you are going to totally rip off a rock band, it should be an old one who's 80's top 40 output has occluded their respectable work...

The fact that Dave Navarro is judging who is a cool rock star is so funny that it is not humorous.

Perkins is OK, but I think he is overrated. For a top 40 band, he is a good drummer. Better than a drum machine, I guess.

I can already smell the funk metal brewing in the seedy underbelly of "alternative" music. I guess the Chili Peppers have some new crap out... just in time to pawn off this old sound on a new generation of douche bags...

i know precisely dick about JA.

i only know i saw footage of perkins drumming once and i thought "hey that guy plays pretty hard, he's okay" and decided to store it away in case i ever needed to mention it on an obscure internet forum.

I don't often think about Jane's Addiction, but I think Perkins is a great drummer. Like David Lovering, he was a technician in a non-technician's band, and somehow that worked.

I don't really consider JA a "funk metal" band either. They got a groove going every now and then, but I'm thinking more along the lines of "Ain't No Right" which, incidentally, has a great drum part.

Their forays into funk were rare. I'll give you guys the "metal" though. Very little out of L.A. is untouched by metal. Remember Plexi? By all rights, just a punk band with a Beatles fetish that sneaked in, but there was some metal going on.

When I think of JA I think of guys who really, REALLY liked Zeppelin, and put some California spin on it.

-A

Been caught stealing is total funky drummer late 80's crap... No slap bass, but they can (and probably did) share the stage with the Chili Peppers. It seemed like everyone was using that funky drummer pattern at that time... From funk metal to early rave music (Stone Roses, Happy Mondays). Nothing original about the band at all. They were men of their times and still are.

That song "Stop" is very funk metal. With the funky guitar chords, etc. They were definately in a league with the C-Peppers. I saw JA a few years ago with Flea on bass... No sloppy associations here. They are interchangable parts...

I don't hear much Zepplin in their stuff at all. They sound way too much like Fragile era Yes to me. Perry's vocals are much like Anderson's, but rougher and with less vocal range. The high pitch and vocal phrasing are totally like Yes. When I finally broke down and bought "Fragile", I was astonished at how it sounded like JA, but 20 years before and with way better musicianship. Thankfully, the diversity of Yessongs make for albums with a lifetime of listenability... I can't say the same for JA.

But if you listen to "South Side of the Sky", it's such a precursor to Jane's Addiction, it's not even funny. Then the slow acoustic strummers like the ubiquitous "Jane Says" sound like the intro to many a Yessong, but go no where. That song, in particular, is unbelievably irritating to me. Not only because I have heard it played numerous times, but because the song is so poorly written. It is two chords, and then a little one chord chorus. It is the most repetitive piece of crap juvenile song I have heard, which is probably why it is their most popular song, stummed by frat boys in colleges around the nation from 1989 to the present... The steel drums attempt to salvage the song, but there is nothing redeemable...

I saw them about 3-4 years ago with Flea playing bass. A friend of mine called me up and said they had a spare ticket that was going to go to waste. So I decided to see them play. It was quite boring, but some interesting stage antics, but nothing involving much of a production budget (the ticket prices don't jive with the production).

They are what they are -- a top 40 alternaiive bland. Navarro is a good guitarist, but not great. Perkins is a good drummer, but not great (I saw him a few years ago with Banyan -- BORING!!!). They get superstar status and boink supermodels because they sold a lot of units. There are way better guitarists and drummers out there...

The similarities to Yes are painfully obvious, but few will believe me because they're thinking owner of a stinky fart... Go to iTunes and download "South Side of the Sky" from Fragile. It's like half of Jane's Addiction's repretoire in one song written 20 years before they existed. In fact, I played that for someone and told 'em it was JA, and they believed it (I know, I am such a prick, but stuff like that just cracks me up)