MrFood

I hear you. As a twenty year-old englishman whose feelings towards his peers' musical offerings make your complaints look like sparkling praise, I would suggest the following: 95% of all indie music (no matter how underground) at all points in history has been poisoned by fashion, retrocool and delusions of originality. I often find myself lamenting this foul year of our lord 2004 and wishing that I could have been in New York in '81 or Chicago in '83 or Leeds in '78 or Orange County in '62 but in all likelyhood I would have felt just as disillusioned then/there as here/now. There are plenty of really depressing arguments to suggest things aren't going to improve (see End of History, etc.), but lately I've been cheering myself up with the following: It's the beginning of a new century (admittedly a century is a completely arbitrary time reference but bear with me). Imagine we were kicking around at this age in 1904. Think of all the things we would have to look forward to, culturally. Dada, Futurism, Modernism, German Expressionism, (insert your own favorites)... keep hangin' on. It's these kinds of stagnant mires of insipid cultural mediocrity (hairrock, truckercaps and so forth) that inadvertantly provoke some of the greatest artists/movements. Sue Tissue: All action is reaction, expansion and contraction, (something something).

Cigars.

clocker bob wrote:Punk rock- traditional: 32

Hardcore: 29

Skater punk: 25

Grunge: 35

Stoner: 39 ( as long you are very hirsute )

Indie rock- college radio variety: 34

Metal: 40

Japanese metal: death

Psychedelic: 50

Japanese Psychedelic: death

Prog: 50

Indie rock of the extra pretentious variety ( incorporating some dilution of Can, Kraftwerk, Ennio Morricone, Zorn...): 39

Rap: 32

R n' B traditional: 65

Country: death

Folk: death

Blues: death

Jazz: death

Classical: death

Cover band: 45

Tribute band: 45

You may violate these rules and remain an active musician if you are primarily a recording engineer or an anarchist, or if you are a legitimate national treasure who only sold out a little bit to get there.

I agree with these numbers and as I find myself getting older I have found that my style slowly melds into the next category of personal playing longevity. I'm twenty nine and am slowly getting into blues and folk combined with my previous "1990 college rock" and "traditional punk inclanations" now strangely enough that actually puts me in the " indie" categorie not the blues or folk category. Now when the indie and traditonal punk start slowly eroding and my blues are no longer typically derivative I will officially be in the Lifelong category of Blues. However I am a National Treasure and will be recognized as such within the next fifteen years. At which time i will commit suicide after a cocaine binge forever ensuring my longevity.




You should call it quits if the only reason that you do it is a dream of fame and money. When all you get out of it is a wish upon a lottery ticket then its time to find something that you actually enjoy. If you don't have to do it anymore then don't.

seriously, you motherfuckers, i'm never posting here again

and i'm never reading this website again, or whatever it is--it just pops up on, what is this, a computer or something?

seriously, i'm OUT

no joke

i mean it

you cocks

really

Seriously, you can't be serious? Can you? Really? For sure?

when you die. i quit playing and started a family 5 years ago and have still managed to spend 700 on an acoustic and 1500 on a used drumkit. and i've been teaching my kids to play since they hold their heads up. at the age of 4, my son can write and perform several of his own creations, with repeating verses and choruses, with the intensity of david lee roth on speed. i know there's no stopping him, just like his dad.

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