JamLifeIntoDeath wrote:You're missing the point. It's not the idea of carrying a weapon that's ludacris, but rather the idea of carrying and intending to use a weapon that you have no business either carrying or using. If you're, say, the great great great grandson of Wild Bill Hickock or something and have somehow inherited his gunslinging prowess, by all means feel free to swagger through the projects with your pistol at the ready.

NerblyBear wrote:

JamLifeIntoDeath wrote:You're missing the point. It's not the idea of carrying a weapon that's ludacris, but rather the idea of carrying and intending to use a weapon that you have no business either carrying or using. If you're, say, the great great great grandson of Wild Bill Hickock or something and have somehow inherited his gunslinging prowess, by all means feel free to swagger through the projects with your pistol at the ready.

That sounds like an evasion of the issue, and it also sounds very suspect.

If it's not a good idea for me to carry a knife simply because I risk getting critically wounded (as you said earlier), and I should then just give up my wallet uncomplainingly, then it's a bad idea for anyone to carry a knife because, as someone also said, "never get in a knife-fight".

And that goes quadruple for guns, the possession of which I never even attempted to defend.

Minotaur029 wrote:
Again, JamLife is an outdoorsman to the extreme...he is an Eagle Scout...is extremely experienced with knives, hatchets...fucking bow and arrows, fishing, backpacking, camping in all seasons, etc. I think he knows a little bit more than you about knife play.

NerblyBear wrote:

JamLifeIntoDeath wrote:You're missing the point. It's not the idea of carrying a weapon that's ludacris, but rather the idea of carrying and intending to use a weapon that you have no business either carrying or using. If you're, say, the great great great grandson of Wild Bill Hickock or something and have somehow inherited his gunslinging prowess, by all means feel free to swagger through the projects with your pistol at the ready.

That sounds like an evasion of the issue, and it also sounds very suspect.

If it's not a good idea for me to carry a knife simply because I risk getting critically wounded (as you said earlier), and I should then just give up my wallet uncomplainingly, then it's a bad idea for anyone to carry a knife because, as someone also said, "never get in a knife-fight".

And that goes quadruple for guns, the possession of which I never even attempted to defend.

NerblyBear wrote:

Minotaur029 wrote:
Again, JamLife is an outdoorsman to the extreme...he is an Eagle Scout...is extremely experienced with knives, hatchets...fucking bow and arrows, fishing, backpacking, camping in all seasons, etc. I think he knows a little bit more than you about knife play.

I realize that. The question isn't whether or not he knows how to wield a knife, it's whether or not it's a good idea for people to carry weapons in dangerous cities for self-protection. And he seems to be saying that it is often a good idea.

I'm not happy with that solution if his only defense of his claim is, "Risking your life is worth it if you stand a chance at killing the other guy." Hence, contra every one else, he seems to be advocating my owning of a knife provided that I train myself how to use it. I think everyone else would probably call him on that as quickly as they called me on my reasoning.

Minotaur029 wrote: Read his original post again, and you'll see that that's NOT what he's saying at all.

Jam Into Life wrote:You're missing the point. It's not the idea of carrying a weapon that's ludacris, but rather the idea of carrying and intending to use a weapon that you have no business either carrying or using. If you're, say, the great great great grandson of Wild Bill Hickock or something and have somehow inherited his gunslinging prowess, by all means feel free to swagger through the projects with your pistol at the ready.

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NerblyBear wrote:
If he doesn't have a weapon, he will run away. I guarantee it. One swipe to his esophagus, and he's a cripple for life.

Sure, I'd be scared, but my logical defense of switchblade-carrying will remain secure in my eyes until someone refutes it, point by point.

Let me spell it out for you.
I have spent many, many hours hanging out in Atlanta.
Mainly, with the people who will be robbing you.
This is how it'll go down.
He'll walk up and begin robbing you, you reach down with your shaking hand and grab your knife. You hold it out, wobbly and shaky and squeak out a 'you'd better leave me alon....'
WHAM!
He has punched you as hard as he can in the face and taken the knife from you.
You are now on the ground holding your bloody face and he is above you holding your knife. And he PISSED that you pulled a knife on him.

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oucheh wrote:NerblyBear,

Ignore all of the other people who posted on this thread. Listen to me. Please do start carrying a knife, preferably one that is serrated and/or can cut thru bone. Please also walk through neighborhoods where you are obviously not welcome and share with them your amazing 9/11 research. Pay careful attention, if you can, when they show you how to use your knife.

-Jeremy