Metal Machine Music

Crap!
Total votes: 7 (16%)
Not Crap!
Total votes: 38 (84%)
Total votes: 45

ALBUM: Lou Reed " Metal Machine Music."

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Mark Lansing wrote:I remember going to a friend's house for a 4th of July BBQ to discover Bryan and our mutual friend Fred sitting on the front porch, getting drunk on bourbon and Coke and blasting MMM out the windows louder than hell. It made me feel patriotic in a really fucked-up way, and it blessedly drowned out the kids popping firecrackers all afternoon.

I like this particular version of America. Salut, "MMM" on Independence Day.

I believe that "MMM" was responsible for the death of Lester Bangs. To love something so much maybe to make you die!

Of course, that's not true. Something else killed him.

ALBUM: Lou Reed " Metal Machine Music."

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Overrated -- 99.999% due to the haters.

Not crap. It's not gold either.

MMM is notable for having the greatest degree of quality in the original vinyl master over the extremely tinny CD master. I'm thinking of selling the CD I have because the vinyl version sounds more colorful and is just so much more abrasive, that I can't imagine playing this album on CD anymore. The CD makes the album sound like a Flying Saucer Attack outtake put through a time machine into the past, which isn't bad, but not MMM.

The locked groove is great.
"Pro Tools is too California Hollywood bullshit.”

ALBUM: Lou Reed " Metal Machine Music."

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burun wrote:
mackro wrote:MMM is notable for having the greatest degree of quality in the original vinyl master over the extremely tinny CD master.

Which CD issue do you have? I think the Buddha one sounds a lot better than the Great Expectations one - which was also reissued on vinyl as well.


I have one of the RCA UK ones... not the one with the glittery silver outside that (I think) is the most recent one.

The vinyl I have is the original RCA one.
"Pro Tools is too California Hollywood bullshit.”

ALBUM: Lou Reed " Metal Machine Music."

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yaledelay wrote:
aaron wrote:i can't believe it came out on 8-track. can you see someone driving around listening to that shit in their puce Eldorado or whatever?


I think Choppy owns it on 8-Track


I don't, although I'd like to. What I'd really like to do someday is have a room with the 8-track playing, so it never stops. Apart from that, all that would be in the room is a chair, and strobe lights. And everything's covered in tinfoil. It would be either the most or least relaxing place in the world.

Just reading this thread made me put the record on. NOT CRAP.
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ALBUM: Lou Reed " Metal Machine Music."

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time for an unplugged version:


ZEITKRATZER feat. LOU REED
METAL MACHINE MUSIC

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LOU REED and ZEITKRATZER redo Metal Machine Music and it's seriously
"clangorous."
Recorded Live At The Berlin Festspielhaus On March 17, 2002, the new
acoustic score created by the German avant garde chamber group
ZEITKRATZER, directed by Reinhold Friedl explores the work's sonic
possibilities without diluting its remarkable power.
The performance features LOU REED on electric guitar.

LOU REED's Metal Machine Music may be the most misunderstood work
ever created by a popular musician. The original two record set,
released in 1975, was mostly noise - feedback squalls, amplifier hums
and the tortured screech of electronic gadgets. The consensus at the
time was that it was not music, but a protest by REED to his then
record label, RCA. People may not know that avant-garde musicians
like JOHN CAGE, LAMONTE YOUNG, IANNIS XENAKIS and his VELVET
UNDERGROUND partner JOHN CALE had a considerable influence on the way
REED approached composition, even his more accessible rock and roll
songs. Metal Machine Music was in some way a logical extension of
atonal romps like "Heroin" and "Sister Ray."

Today Metal Machine Music has become accepted by the avant-garde and
highly regarded for its contribution to the "free music" movement in
popular culture. The 11-member ZEITKRATZER ENSEMBLE from Berlin gave
REED's album a thorough listen and transcribed the sounds to create
an acoustic music score for their ensemble to play live. Those
familiar with the oft-criticized two-disc album might wonder how they
pulled this off. ZEITKRATZER has the will and the musical ability to
give the music the attention it deserves, having already collaborated
with artists like KEITH ROWE, LEE RANALDO, CARSTEN NICOLAI and
ELLIOTT SHARP.

Says LOU REED: "Let me give you a little background. Metal Machine
Music was made over 30 years ago. In the year 2000, they re-released
it with a new mastering job by BOB LUDWIG and myself - the 25th
anniversary of Metal Machine Music. It was taken off the market three
weeks after it was released in '75. Still, time goes by and people
get more used to what you call loops and electronics and noise and
feedback. Okay? ZEITKRATZER gets in touch with me, 'Can we play Metal
Machine Music live?' I said, 'It can't be done.' They said, 'We
transcribed it. Let us send you a few minutes of it and you tell us.'
They sent it, I played it, and there it was. It was unbelievable. I
said, 'My God! Okay, go do it.' They said, 'Will you play guitar on
the last part of it?' So Metal Machine Music finally got performed
live at the Berlin Opera House. It's extraordinary, because all those
years ago it was considered a career ender. And it almost was,
believe you me."

"The idea [to play Metal Machine Music live] was born a few years ago
in a discussion with ULRICH KRIEGER, the saxophone player of
ZEITKRATZER," says REINHOLD FRIEDL, the group's director. "We thought
Metal Machine Music was a very important piece, comparable with the
contemporary music pieces of that time. It's constructed in a very
orchestral way, so we thought this music asks for a live
instrumentation. Ulrich and Luca Venitucci created a score and I
think it really worked. We had already worked with noise musicians
like MERZBOW or ZBIGNIEW KARKOWSKI and we've worked with electronics,
manipulating and reworking our instrumental techniques with
'electronic' sounds. Ulrich's and Luca's transcription of Metal
Machine Music is a 34 page score, which is a real masterwork of
instrumentation. It includes orchestration techniques that you hear
in DEBUSSY compositions, like mixtures of sounds." zeitkratzer was
clearly ready for the challenges of performing Metal Machine Music
live,
and drew packed houses to their presentation of the work. It
reinforced their assertion that "rock 'n' roll as serious
contemporary music has been ignored for too long, in too arrogant a
way."

REED's pronouncements on his most infamous opus have always been
confusing, perhaps deliberately so, forcing listeners to come to
their own interpretation about what they're hearing. Of the original
four-sided album he once quipped, "Anyone who gets to side four is
dumber than I am." On the other hand, he told rock critic LESTER
BANGS that he'd intentionally placed sonic allusions to classical
works like BEETHOVEN's Eroica and Pastoral Symphonies into the mix.
Whatever the truth is, there's no denying the musicality (yes, the
musicality) of ZEITKRATZER's interpretation. With the 11 musicians -
BURKHARD SCHLOTHAUER, violin; CHRISTIAN MESSER, viola; ULRICH MAISS,
violoncello; ALEXANDER FRANGENHEIM, contrabass; ULRICH KRIEGER,
soprano and tenor saxophones;, FRANZ HAUTZINGER, trumpet; MELVYN
POORE, tuba; REINHOLD FRIEDL, piano; LUCA VENITUCCI, accordion; ADAM
WEISMAN, percussion and LOU REED, solo guitar - spread out over a
large stage, the ear is free to wander into and around t
he music, picking out rhythms, overtones, hints of melody and other
nuances that were largely submerged in REED's original all guitar and
amp onslaught. The relentless sound forces the mind to put aside its
preconceptions about what music is supposed to sound like, or feel
like, or look like. The brain starts to implode, or explode, or
dissolve Zen-like into the controlled chaos of the performance,
discovering a strange exhilaration, accepting an invitation to
explore the outer reaches of texture and timbre and experience a
sonic freedom that's rare in any art form.

"Played by a live group, Metal Machine Music sounds even wilder and
more frenetic, and Zeitkratzer's act of fandom - countless work-hours
involved in transcribing and orchestrating - moves Metal Machine
Music into a context where, perhaps, it always belonged: as an
avant-garde piece of bristling minimalism rather than a rock
musician's bizarre experiment." NEW YORK TIMES, 2007/05/27

ALBUM: Lou Reed " Metal Machine Music."

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MMM is like a Seranno. It's a big piece of shit with very little thought behind it (other then "I hate RCA"). Then when the work is finished, as with Serrano, the piece's intent is reverse-engineered, and then spun into something that actually seems like there was some amount of thought put into it.

Take Piss Christ for instance. Serrano pisses in a jar and drops a crucifix in it. No thought at all. The piece is finished - except for the part where Serrano sits around drinking and thinking about the 'intent' of the work. Typical studio artist bullshit.

The same is true of MMM. It's a thoughtless piece of garbage with a fake backstory.

Crap.

ALBUM: Lou Reed " Metal Machine Music."

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The unplugged version sounds interesting. I may need to pick this up.

I believe MMM was the first pure electronic noise record I ever picked up. I bought it when it was first released.

At that point in my life, I may have heard individual tracks on some records that bordered on this type of music, but nothing else really came close to being this type of pure noise. I loved it when I first bought it, and still love it now.
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