110th, these bands you mentioned aren't dangerous musically. They are just violent live acts. (Yes, an act. I doubt Lisa Suckdog is out punching the mail man.) I also want danger/uncertainty in music at times, lyrically or with the music itself. It doesn't mean that i have to go home with a black eye.

People who are musically dangerous are the ones who threaten the world's safe, categorized notion of music among other things. I dunno...Stravinsky, Bob Dylan and Ornette Coleman in their day. (There was a riot during the premier of the Rite of Spring. Ornette did get his arse kicked and horn broken for playing the way he did.) I don't know, maybe Big Black, Minor Threat or Swans later on. I don't know who it is now. Who is it now? The last dangerous move in music was probably when that kid invented Napster. I dunno.

Buzzoven played my hometown twice around the time Hatebox was released.

They were pretty boring then, certainly not dangerous. They sounded like the Melvins minus all the things that make the Melvins good. Kirk was very into Lysol at the time and had the soundguy play it before their set.

I saw them a few years later, and they did the whole M-80 and onstage bleeding routine. They also smuggled beer into the place (not cool since it was an all ages club and the cops were constantly looking for a reason to shut it down) and smashed up a lot of the club's PA equipment.

The guy who booked the shows at the club showed me their contract rider. Among other things, tt called for three or four fifteen year old girls and cab fare. Assuming that was a joke, it was fairly amusing.

If being "dangerous" means breaking other people's stuff, CRAP.

At this point, I feel like I'm just repeating everyone above, but my old band opened for them a few times when they came through jersey. Yes, M-80s and blood, I didn't realize they did this every night. I also remember that they were pretty unbelievably loud and had all the creepy samples between songs.

At the time I think they were based in Wilmington, NC, and when we played there the locals told us how no clubs in Wilmington would book Buzzov-en anymore.

110th wrote: what happened to the element of danger in music?

The larger questions is "Why haven't you started a [dangerous] band?"

mewling into your cappuccino about the lack of danger in your entertainment choices is kind of pathetic.

Get crackin', GG. Time to get out there and CHANGE THE WORLD.

dontfeartheringo wrote:

110th wrote: what happened to the element of danger in music?

The larger questions is "Why haven't you started a [dangerous] band?"

this gets me to thinking, how could one conceive a truly dangerous act in a way that's never really been done before? i'm brainstorming on this one...

- guns? nah, too cliche...
- explosives? nah, pyrotechnics are already overdone and you dont want to trash equipment with explosions...
- death threats? well that one could work, but either A: you would have to back it up with action to make it have some substance, or B: people would feel threatened and get you arrested/killed
- poisonous snakes? there's an idea...
- broken glass everywhere? another idea...

I came here looking for some info on Weedeater and stumbled across this gem of a thread.