Ohhh so there is 1 all working and very malleable socialist practice that works huh?

Is Cuba a socialist state?

cursedby11 wrote:

North Korea: far naughtier, sneakier, and more evil than Iraq - no asswoopin, instead, ignore them.
Uzbekistan: just as naughty and evil, maybe less sneaky - no asswoopin, instead, ally with them.
Iran: just as naughty and sneaky, maybe less evil - no asswoopin, instead, talk trash about them.
Syria: probably naughtier, just as sneaky and evil - no asswoopin, instead, ignore them.
China: just as naughty, sneaky, and evil - no asswoopin, instead, MFN.

North Korea: Yea lets fight 2 wars at the same time....good one guy.

Um, don't look now, but we are fighting two wars at the same time!

Iran: yea, we should have gone after them first. That would have been smart but I'm no military general or advisor.
China: powerful trader with the Us. Yea lets go to war with them! LOL

I'm not advocating war with those countries. I'm saying that if your argument were true - Bush makes war with countries because they are naughty, sneaky, and evil - then we would be at war with a lot of countries. Since we aren't, your argument is false. Thus, Bush must have made war with Iraq for some other reason. QED.

I'm not a bush advocate, i just like to muster arguement to surface your ideas in this discussion. Also its hardly bush actually. Paul wulfewitz told Kerry and Bush that if they went over to Iraq, theyd be welcomed with open arms. Don't forget Kerry was for this war and was mislead too. Just don't tell me socialism works because Cuba is fucked. There's a reason Cubans flee on rafts to our country.

cursedby11 wrote:Ohhh so there is 1 all working and very malleable socialist practice that works huh?

?!?!

Is Cuba a socialist state?

More or less, yes. There are a lot of states that employ socialism to a greater or lesser degree in their policies. The United States has relatively little socialism. Cuba, as a Communist nation, employs more. Not every Cuban policy is a Socialistic policy. Communist states usually use extreme socialist economic practices with extreme authoritarian political practices. Most of them allow some elements of capitalism to mix with the socialism - even North Korea, one of the most extreme Communist states currently in existence, has tiny bits of capitalism, I've heard. China has a great deal. I think Cuba lies somewhere in between. A Social Democratic state - Sweden is a good example - uses a mix of socialism and capitalism, with relatively liberal political practices. The point is, it's a spectrum - nearly every state has some capitalism and some socialism in their economic policies.

I mean if all these countries are doing jsut fine under thier degree of socialism, then how come everyone wants aid from the US? Sweden may have socialist tendencies that work for them, but they aren't a superpower. What may work for a small country, may not work for our country, a superpower. With this power comes great responsibility as well. If someone becomes a threat to the world, it is our responsibility as a top dog to enforce justice.

cursedby11 wrote:Just don't tell me socialism works because Cuba is fucked.

Don't tell me valium works, because I know someone who died from taking a whole bottle of it.

right but we are a superpower. socialism wont work on this large of a scale in the US. It is our responsibility to enforce justice on a country who is creating a disturbance in the world. Other socialist countries rely on our capitalistic nature.

cursedby11 wrote:I mean if all these countries are doing jsut fine under thier degree of socialism, then how come everyone wants aid from the US?

I don't think Sweden asks for US aid...

Sweden may have socialist tendencies that work for them, but they aren't a superpower. What may work for a small country, may not work for our country, a superpower.

This may be fair, but I happen to disagree.

With this power comes great responsibility as well. If someone becomes a threat to the world, it is our responsibility as a top dog to enforce justice.

Perhaps yes, perhaps no. But Iraq posed no threat to the world. Hell, Saddam posed no threat to 2/3 of his own country just before our invasion.

Perhaps yes, perhaps no. But Iraq posed no threat to the world. Hell, Saddam posed no threat to 2/3 of his own country just before our invasion.

Do you hear what you are saying? So he posed a threat to 1/3rd of his country!?!? He tested biological weapons in mass numbers on his own people!