Allegedly his material was uploaded to Trump's campaign's teleprompter so Trump's campaign knew what was going to be said, allowed it to be said, but now wants to distance themselves from what was said. It's intentional chaos direct from the campaign.

cakes wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 12:01 pm

PASTA wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 8:48 am https://www.thenation.com/article/polit ... s-protest/

Great point. Also if it hasn't been pointed out yet, one of the first things a Trump administration would like to do is destroy the Palestinian movement and give Isreal whatever it wants to wipe Gaza off the map. It's literally in the top order of things they would like to do.

Jesus, I'm now voting for the candidate that is in complete opposition to what I want, but will be so magnanimous as to ALLOW me the privilege to disagree regardless? Are you trying to turn me into a accelerationist? I think a better idea would be, If there are enough Arabs in MI that tell the Dems that they will never ever ever ever win Michigan again until they stop killing people, that might start making a difference. Otherwise this topic is predetermined until the American empire still breathes.

zorg wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 3:45 pm

cakes wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 12:01 pm

PASTA wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 8:48 am https://www.thenation.com/article/polit ... s-protest/

Great point. Also if it hasn't been pointed out yet, one of the first things a Trump administration would like to do is destroy the Palestinian movement and give Isreal whatever it wants to wipe Gaza off the map. It's literally in the top order of things they would like to do.

Jesus, I'm now voting for the candidate that is in complete opposition to what I want, but will be so magnanimous as to ALLOW me the privilege to disagree regardless? Are you trying to turn me into a accelerationist? I think a better idea would be, If there are enough Arabs in MI that tell the Dems that they will never ever ever ever win Michigan again until they stop killing people, that might start making a difference. Otherwise this topic is predetermined until the American empire still breathes.

I'm in Michigan and the groundswell for Harris in the last two weeks is HIGH. I think she'll carry the state.
Trump has been shoring up in the suburbs around Detroit (he was in Novi, criticizing Detroit, while Harris was in Kalamazoo), and he'll surely carry the hinterlands, but I think people will come out in big numbers in purple areas for Harris.

zorg wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 3:45 pm Jesus, I'm now voting for the candidate that is in complete opposition to what I want, but will be so magnanimous as to ALLOW me the privilege to disagree regardless?

Yeah, that's the way it works.

Are you trying to turn me into a accelerationist?

If you think "hurrying things up" will results in anything but additional oceans of pain and death for people less fortunate than you are--above and beyond those that already exist--go for it.

Isaac wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 3:54 pm

zorg wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 3:45 pm

cakes wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 12:01 pm

Great point. Also if it hasn't been pointed out yet, one of the first things a Trump administration would like to do is destroy the Palestinian movement and give Isreal whatever it wants to wipe Gaza off the map. It's literally in the top order of things they would like to do.

Jesus, I'm now voting for the candidate that is in complete opposition to what I want, but will be so magnanimous as to ALLOW me the privilege to disagree regardless? Are you trying to turn me into a accelerationist? I think a better idea would be, If there are enough Arabs in MI that tell the Dems that they will never ever ever ever win Michigan again until they stop killing people, that might start making a difference. Otherwise this topic is predetermined until the American empire still breathes.

I'm in Michigan and the groundswell for Harris in the last two weeks is HIGH. I think she'll carry the state.
Trump has been shoring up in the suburbs around Detroit (he was in Novi, criticizing Detroit, while Harris was in Kalamazoo), and he'll surely carry the hinterlands, but I think people will come out in big numbers in purple areas for Harris.

I'm in the western Detroit burbs, still in Wayne county.

Somebody just plastered Northville with “Gang Members for Harris,” “Shoplifters for Harris,” and “Illegal Aliens for Harris” signs over the past day or two.

Similarly, we were in the Mt. Clemens (Macomb county) area last weekend and I’ve never seen so many over-the-top trump signs. Huge billboards or flags or crazy homemade signs in at least 70% of the yards. There was a small rally on the corner of 23 Mile and Schoenherr with 60 year old dudes wearing trump flags as capes blocking traffic and carrying “Joe and the Hoe” posters. Saw maybe 3 Harris signs that entire day.

It’s way more subdued around my house. Harris signs may have a slight edge in my neighborhood, but it’s still maybe 1 in 10 houses that have anything out front at all.

I work in automotive, specifically in the EV battery industry, and I'm hearing rumblings from multiple people about people liking Trump now because he's got Musk in his corner and it's going to be good for EVs. This despite all of the anti-environment stuff that he's said and done for years.

I'm a little more pessimistic about which way MI will go.

kokorodoko wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2024 8:38 am

Curry Pervert wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2024 8:36 am

kokorodoko wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 11:51 am also telling a story that the invader is in fact the one being invaded.

I love a good strawman, but that one wasn't very good.

Curry Pervert wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2024 6:47 pm

kokorodoko wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2024 12:17 pm it's not Russia waging war against Ukraine, but NATO waging war against Russia through Ukraine.

Glad you're finally getting it.

Yup, still not very good.

Fucking Odessa I swear. Racist ass oil money is a scourge in Texas

In 2010, the racial makeup of the city was 75.4% White, 5.7% Black, 1.1% Asian, 1.0% Native American, 0.1% Pacific Islander, 14.2% from other races, and 2.5% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino residents of any race was 50.6%.[13] By 2020, the racial and ethnic makeup was 32.68% non-Hispanic white, 6.12% African American, 0.37% Native American, 2.14% Asian, 0.23% Pacific Islander, 0.31% some other race, 2.01% multiracial, and 56.14% Hispanic or Latino of any race, reflecting state and nationwide trends of greater diversification.

Their city council

Is that Garth Brooks on the end?

llllllllllllllllllll wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 5:35 am Fucking Odessa I swear. Racist ass oil money is a scourge in Texas

In 2010, the racial makeup of the city was 75.4% White, 5.7% Black, 1.1% Asian, 1.0% Native American, 0.1% Pacific Islander, 14.2% from other races, and 2.5% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino residents of any race was 50.6%.[13] By 2020, the racial and ethnic makeup was 32.68% non-Hispanic white, 6.12% African American, 0.37% Native American, 2.14% Asian, 0.23% Pacific Islander, 0.31% some other race, 2.01% multiracial, and 56.14% Hispanic or Latino of any race, reflecting state and nationwide trends of greater diversification.

Their city council

You'll have to spell this out for me, I don't get it. That there are only 2 Latino looking dudes and there should be 3.5? More diverse than I would have expected, honestly.

Curry Pervert wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 8:33 pm Yup, still not very good.

Here's my full sentence from the quote, where I was mocking Wagenknecht's stance:

kokorodoko wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2024 12:17 pm Of course Wagenknecht also thinks NATO started the war, so it's not Russia waging war against Ukraine, but NATO waging war against Russia through Ukraine.

You responded to this saying "Finally you're getting it", i.e. you indicated that you endorsed the claim being made - that Russia is being aggressed upon, and that the people and country right now under invasion and occupation is part of the aggressor. I was straightforwardly interpreting what you said to me, not strawmanning.