AttackChimp wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2025 12:20 pm This is a pretty crazy sit down.

Fuck. Get Trump out of there. Get them all out. This is your Maidan moment, Americans.

Healthcare
Social Security
Unaffordable rent and housing costs
Inflation
Wage inequality
Climate change
Surveillance state
Jobs moved overseas
Checks and balances that work for the masses not the few

I work and volunteer with Christian Magas. We have calm and rational conversations about how these things are killing all of us and future generations but both sides of aisle get told from the corporations and their Two toady political parties these aren't the issues that matter. The right wing media shoves voter fraud, deep state, AI, illegals, Soros, patriotism and now "look our side is the WINNER and it's time for white rich revenge". The so called liberal national news is doing nothing as well to go against their corporate owners and the middle management class who get the crumbs.

When Trump first got elected I had a couple of Democratic friends tell me it was my fault for voting Green and not Hilary. Well Democrats you just got four years with the reins and a chance to beat a fascist and look where we're at now.

When the news and Democrats are spending a time and energy reacting to shit nuggets like "Gulf of America" this country has no chance.

Why is anyone offering cable news as a savior or even a guardrail of democracy? They have been and will always be run by capitalists with power and money as their goal.

handsbloodyhands wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 10:55 am Healthcare
Social Security
Unaffordable rent and housing costs
Inflation
Wage inequality
Climate change
Surveillance state
Checks and balances that work for the masses not the few

I work and volunteer with Christian Magas. We have calm and rational conversations about how these things are killing all of us and future generations but both sides of aisle get told from the corporations and their Two toady political parties these aren't the issues that matter. The right wing media shoves voter fraud, deep state, AI, patriotism and now "look our side is the WINNER and it's time for white rich revenge". The left news is doing nothing as well to go against their corporate owners and the middle management class who get the crumbs.

When Trump first got elected a had a couple of Democratic friends tell me it was my fault for voting Green and not Hilary. Well Democrats you just got four years with the reins and a chance to beat a fascist and look where we're at now.

We've been abandoned by the DNC. Until they make a full and proper pivot to a worker's party, they will win nothing.

I'm convinced that non-Maga Trump voters would make exemplary progressives. Over 65% of voters support Single Payer Health Care (polling often goes higher than 72%, depending on the pollster). You can't tell me that every single Trump voter is against Universal HC - because it's statistically improbable.

I could go on at length, about all sorts of social programs that receive a plurality of support in the US. The DNC will not court any of them.

The DNC will not shift to a worker party. They will not do it. They prefer to hand our laws over to a cadre of jackals and ghouls, because they refuse to relinquish the ever dwindling supply of power they have. Fuck, many of our Democratic law makers should be in prison.



Unrelated, and not worthy of a new post: The set of eggs on Zelensky. Trump is about one insult away from turning him into a flat out hero.

AttackChimp wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 11:09 am

handsbloodyhands wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 10:55 am Healthcare
Social Security
Unaffordable rent and housing costs
Inflation
Wage inequality
Climate change
Surveillance state
Checks and balances that work for the masses not the few

I work and volunteer with Christian Magas. We have calm and rational conversations about how these things are killing all of us and future generations but both sides of aisle get told from the corporations and their Two toady political parties these aren't the issues that matter. The right wing media shoves voter fraud, deep state, AI, patriotism and now "look our side is the WINNER and it's time for white rich revenge". The left news is doing nothing as well to go against their corporate owners and the middle management class who get the crumbs.

When Trump first got elected a had a couple of Democratic friends tell me it was my fault for voting Green and not Hilary. Well Democrats you just got four years with the reins and a chance to beat a fascist and look where we're at now.

We've been abandoned by the DNC. Until they make a full and proper pivot to a worker's party, they will win nothing.

I'm convinced that non-Maga Trump voters would make exemplary progressives. Over 65% of voters support Single Payer Health Care (polling often goes higher than 72%, depending on the pollster). You can't tell me that every single Trump voter is against Universal HC - because it's statistically improbable.

I could go on at length, about all sorts of social programs that receive a plurality of support in the US. The DNC will not court any of them.

The DNC will not shift to a worker party. They will not do it. They prefer to hand our laws over to a cadre of jackals and ghouls, because they refuse to relinquish the ever dwindling supply of power they have. Fuck, many of our Democratic law makers should be in prison.

The DNC is probably going to pivot just enough to win. For all of us left of 'liberal' the review will be "better but not enough". The problem is popular programs poll well but their packaging doesn't. If our cultural politics weren't so toxic and adversarial the public might have already pushed us halfway to a kind of nordic style economy. The money in clean energy is already making some people millions in environmental reform. I'm not even sure how corruption can keep the milktoast Pelosis and Schumers of this world from following public opinion. At some point it's a purely ideological disconnect.

losthighway wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 12:09 pm

AttackChimp wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 11:09 am

handsbloodyhands wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 10:55 am Healthcare
Social Security
Unaffordable rent and housing costs
Inflation
Wage inequality
Climate change
Surveillance state
Checks and balances that work for the masses not the few

I work and volunteer with Christian Magas. We have calm and rational conversations about how these things are killing all of us and future generations but both sides of aisle get told from the corporations and their Two toady political parties these aren't the issues that matter. The right wing media shoves voter fraud, deep state, AI, patriotism and now "look our side is the WINNER and it's time for white rich revenge". The left news is doing nothing as well to go against their corporate owners and the middle management class who get the crumbs.

When Trump first got elected a had a couple of Democratic friends tell me it was my fault for voting Green and not Hilary. Well Democrats you just got four years with the reins and a chance to beat a fascist and look where we're at now.

We've been abandoned by the DNC. Until they make a full and proper pivot to a worker's party, they will win nothing.

I'm convinced that non-Maga Trump voters would make exemplary progressives. Over 65% of voters support Single Payer Health Care (polling often goes higher than 72%, depending on the pollster). You can't tell me that every single Trump voter is against Universal HC - because it's statistically improbable.

I could go on at length, about all sorts of social programs that receive a plurality of support in the US. The DNC will not court any of them.

The DNC will not shift to a worker party. They will not do it. They prefer to hand our laws over to a cadre of jackals and ghouls, because they refuse to relinquish the ever dwindling supply of power they have. Fuck, many of our Democratic law makers should be in prison.

The DNC is probably going to pivot just enough to win. For all of us left of 'liberal' the review will be "better but not enough". The problem is popular programs poll well but their packaging doesn't. If our cultural politics weren't so toxic and adversarial the public might have already pushed us halfway to a kind of nordic style economy. The money in clean energy is already making some people millions in environmental reform. I'm not even sure how corruption can keep the milktoast Pelosis and Schumers of this world from following public opinion. At some point it's a purely ideological disconnect.

Charles Schumer is an odd duck. He's clearly only corrupted by cameras.

Nancy Pelosi should be in prison for abuse of the public trust.

I'm not at all charitable to these people. The ideological disconnect you refer to is very simple. They think they know better than us. They think they know what's good for us. They're not our parents, but they act as if they are. They should be working for us. This is what corruption is - the empty promise of representation.

AttackChimp wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 12:27 pm I'm not at all charitable to these people. The ideological disconnect you refer to is very simple. They think they know better than us. They think they know what's good for us. They're not our parents, but they act as if they are. They should be working for us. This is what corruption is - the empty promise of representation.

That sounds right to me. It's very paternalistic. Kind of the Boomer lense of moderate. They share many of our goals but have this innate fear of rocking the boat.

losthighway wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 12:45 pm

AttackChimp wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 12:27 pm I'm not at all charitable to these people. The ideological disconnect you refer to is very simple. They think they know better than us. They think they know what's good for us. They're not our parents, but they act as if they are. They should be working for us. This is what corruption is - the empty promise of representation.

That sounds right to me. It's very paternalistic. Kind of the Boomer lense of moderate. They share many of our goals but have this innate fear of rocking the boat.

That's my issue with them. They aren't my enemy. But seeing Trump just fucking bulldoze the government right now makes me wonder what could have been if we had Dem leadership in the past 15 years that was willing to push things much further.

losthighway wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 12:45 pm

AttackChimp wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 12:27 pm I'm not at all charitable to these people. The ideological disconnect you refer to is very simple. They think they know better than us. They think they know what's good for us. They're not our parents, but they act as if they are. They should be working for us. This is what corruption is - the empty promise of representation.

That sounds right to me. It's very paternalistic. Kind of the Boomer lense of moderate. They share many of our goals but have this innate fear of rocking the boat.

These two discuss that very subject in their interview. To paraphrase, the hippie boomers turned into the "we know better and what's best for you ignorant blue collar folks" managerial class of today. The're no bread and butter issues being worked on. If Hilary's handlers would have fully embraced Sanders talking issues and not run with the "Bernie Bros" tag she probably would have won.

I highly recommend this video.



Actually watch it if you’re going to comment.