zircona1 wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 1:22 pm I laughed, maybe twice through the whole thing?

I remember rooting for it, as I like the comedic conceit, but it's just not funny. Office Space is funny when it's just the situational comedy, but that also loses me when they they try to shoehorn in an actual plot.

I had fun watching it. And there are some real parallels as American culture seems to circle the drain. NC for that alone.

Here comes the waffles:

The basic premise of the film, de-evolution, people are getting genetically dumber, is problematic. I think some people actually take that seriously and it has a eugenics angle. While I celebrate many of our cultural curmudgeons I think the way we casually look at human intelligence isn't only inaccurate, it's self defeating. The George Carlin quote about "Think about how smart the average person you know is..... half of the people are dumber!". Is neat as a pin and psychologically false. If you see intelligence on a bellcurve you realize that the majority of the people are average and true idiots are unique. Also human intelligence has some elasticity; people can actually get smarter through practice. So while our country keeps feeling dumber, it's actually a cultural problem, and an individual problem. It's ignorance, not a cognitive gap. Which in some ways is all the more damning. You can still watch the movie and think of it that way. Or I can still STFU and have a laugh while those idiots water their garden with Gatorade.

this thread is proof of why conservatives always win.

i remember the crap not crap about this movie back on the old forum (i assume it’s gone now) and it turned into a whole discussion about how it was problematic due to encouraging eugenics. my guess is that the same people who wrote that felt it was problematic when that complete unknown ran over and punched Richard Spencer right in his fucking face. oh my! we musn’t do that! we must win the logic olympics!

with Office Space, Idiocracy and Silicon Valley Mike Judge could really read the tea leaves about where we were all headed. pure misery.

akosinski wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 6:10 pm it was problematic due to encouraging eugenics.

Yes.

akosinski wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 6:10 pm it was problematic when that complete unknown ran over and punched Richard Spencer right in his fucking face. oh my! we musn’t do that! we must win the logic olympics!

No.

That wasn't difficult.

losthighway wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 4:55 pm The George Carlin quote about "Think about how smart the average person you know is..... half of the people are dumber!".

This is called a joke. But I suppose proving a point is what your aim was.

cakes wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 7:53 pm

losthighway wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 4:55 pm The George Carlin quote about "Think about how smart the average person you know is..... half of the people are dumber!".

This is called a joke. But I suppose proving a point is what your aim was.

Sure. It's such a clever joke, I almost had to work my way out of believing it was funny cause it was true. Might have been my shortcoming. I guess what I'm getting at is trying to think about other people's intelligence is hard. Or at least for me it has been.

But this is the problem with Idiocracy as prophecy, not the problem with it as an absurd, low budget comedy film.

losthighway wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 8:41 pm

cakes wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 7:53 pm

losthighway wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 4:55 pm The George Carlin quote about "Think about how smart the average person you know is..... half of the people are dumber!".

This is called a joke. But I suppose proving a point is what your aim was.

Sure. It's such a clever joke, I almost had to work my way out of believing it was funny cause it was true. Might have been my shortcoming. I guess what I'm getting at is trying to think about other people's intelligence is hard. Or at least for me it has been.

But this is the problem with Idiocracy as prophecy, not the problem with it as an absurd, low budget comedy film.

A wrestling maniac becomes president in a time when most people are stupid or not paying attention. We're only a decade away from Buttfuckers.

Eugenicist garbage. Anyone who says "Idiocracy is a documentary" is an incredibly lazy thinker.

Crap

Original thread is still there btw: viewtopic.php?t=19636&hilit=idiocracy

I haven't gone thru it.

I've turned it off after 20 minutes or so, them jokes just weren't funny.