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We did move things around in there so that the flow of the space made more sense as far as less having to walk all over each other. It’s definitely easier to maneuver around now but it also does mean where I stand is much closer to where my amp. In the past it was easier to angle my amp away which probably helped with feedback.

The room couldn’t be any larger than say 20’ x 10’ (if smaller than that).
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I read some about engineers who might have compression going on tracks or subgroups but never the stereo mix (Dear Leader), and then some (Kevin Shields, John Wood) who tend to save it all for the master buss.

Anybody use both? I like using complimiter pres when tracking for peak limiting that goes into compression mode on big (generally unintended) spikes. I like 1-2 db stereo compression (usually with the bass, vocal, or solo element processed separately) just because I like it and it just generally helps it sound like a record I want to make before the mastering stage.

I do worry about overcompression - I have found myself getting used to ruinous sounds before snapping out of it - - but I am generally never going more than a few db GR at a time, automating the dry recorded spike down prior to do most of the processing, but then applying some again over the whole buss. Though I never know how much the VU meter is lying.

Feelings?

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defendyachtrock wrote: Tue Oct 28, 2025 4:23 pm We did move things around in there so that the flow of the space made more sense as far as less having to walk all over each other. It’s definitely easier to maneuver around now but it also does mean where I stand is much closer to where my amp. In the past it was easier to angle my amp away which probably helped with feedback.

The room couldn’t be any larger than say 20’ x 10’ (if smaller than that).
I’ve got a 9x12”, full band with half stacks and 8x10 and we get by alright, if not econo. Should be an easy solution

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TylerDeadPine wrote: Thu Oct 30, 2025 10:19 pm
defendyachtrock wrote: Tue Oct 28, 2025 4:23 pm We did move things around in there so that the flow of the space made more sense as far as less having to walk all over each other. It’s definitely easier to maneuver around now but it also does mean where I stand is much closer to where my amp. In the past it was easier to angle my amp away which probably helped with feedback.

The room couldn’t be any larger than say 20’ x 10’ (if smaller than that).
I’ve got a 9x12”, full band with half stacks and 8x10 and we get by alright, if not econo. Should be an easy solution
Goddamn, I've practiced as a four piece in a 10x12" room, 9x12 gives me the woolies.
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tallchris wrote: Fri Oct 31, 2025 10:30 am
TylerDeadPine wrote: Thu Oct 30, 2025 10:19 pm
defendyachtrock wrote: Tue Oct 28, 2025 4:23 pm We did move things around in there so that the flow of the space made more sense as far as less having to walk all over each other. It’s definitely easier to maneuver around now but it also does mean where I stand is much closer to where my amp. In the past it was easier to angle my amp away which probably helped with feedback.

The room couldn’t be any larger than say 20’ x 10’ (if smaller than that).
I’ve got a 9x12”, full band with half stacks and 8x10 and we get by alright, if not econo. Should be an easy solution
Goddamn, I've practiced as a four piece in a 10x12" room, 9x12 gives me the woolies.
California dude. To be fair to the practice-lord, it's really 9x11.25. And we get a five piece with 61-key synth in there! We love music!!!!!

oh man, my spouse's other band made a video truly showing how claustrophobic it is. thank god we're all good friends.

Anyway, we don't get uncontrollable feedback from this?!
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DQIkcGgieEx/

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TylerDeadPine wrote: Fri Oct 31, 2025 10:51 am
tallchris wrote: Fri Oct 31, 2025 10:30 am
TylerDeadPine wrote: Thu Oct 30, 2025 10:19 pm

I’ve got a 9x12”, full band with half stacks and 8x10 and we get by alright, if not econo. Should be an easy solution
Goddamn, I've practiced as a four piece in a 10x12" room, 9x12 gives me the woolies.
California dude. To be fair to the practice-lord, it's really 9x11.25. And we get a five piece with 61-key synth in there! We love music!!!!!

oh man, my spouse's other band made a video truly showing how claustrophobic it is. thank god we're all good friends.

Anyway, we don't get uncontrollable feedback from this?!
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DQIkcGgieEx/
Ha, I guess that doesn't look THAT bad and at least the ceilings are high enough you can shelve a bunch of stuff! I really want to have a separate shed thing built at my house that I can soundproof and use for practice and an office, but the largest I can do without getting permits is 10x12 (which would get smaller inside after installing two layers of drywall on the studs).
Current Bands: High Priors | Maple Stave

Old Bands:
www.bracketsseattle.bandcamp.com
www.burnpermits.bandcamp.com
www.policeteeth.bandcamp.com

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llllllllllllllllllll wrote: Thu Oct 30, 2025 3:49 pm I read some about engineers who might have compression going on tracks or subgroups but never the stereo mix (Dear Leader), and then some (Kevin Shields, John Wood) who tend to save it all for the master buss.

Anybody use both? I like using complimiter pres when tracking for peak limiting that goes into compression mode on big (generally unintended) spikes. I like 1-2 db stereo compression (usually with the bass, vocal, or solo element processed separately) just because I like it and it just generally helps it sound like a record I want to make before the mastering stage.

I do worry about overcompression - I have found myself getting used to ruinous sounds before snapping out of it - - but I am generally never going more than a few db GR at a time, automating the dry recorded spike down prior to do most of the processing, but then applying some again over the whole buss. Though I never know how much the VU meter is lying.

Feelings?
I'm a big fan of very slight compression in multiple steps. I'll have a comp on tracks, group bus's, and masters but all doing very subtile 1 to 2 db at 2:1or something. the only time I use compression more than 2:1 is if I'm using a 1176 which only goes to 4:1 and them are for crushing anyway. I'll also add that there seems to be 2 uses for a compressor. 1. to control dynamics, and 2. to add some sort of tonality or "vibe" (eewww.) to the sound. I'm pretty much always using them to control dynamic range and don't care if a compressor "sounds good". I kind of don't ever want to hear the compressor... aside from 1176 on kick and snare. Which is the only compressor I really ever use as a tonal tool.
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Kniferide wrote: Sun Nov 02, 2025 12:35 pm I'll also add that there seems to be 2 uses for a compressor. 1. to control dynamics, and 2. to add some sort of tonality or "vibe" (eewww.) to the sound. I'm pretty much always using them to control dynamic range and don't care if a compressor "sounds good". I kind of don't ever want to hear the compressor... aside from 1176 on kick and snare. Which is the only compressor I really ever use as a tonal tool.
Yeah I'm more or less in this camp, though compression can also effect stereo perception with widely panned things like guitars and drum overheads which can be neat even when it's a little unnatural. The really obvious squishy effect is probably the type of thing you should outgrow after a day along the lines of turning your distortion's gain all the way to 10 or whatever.

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Here’s kind of a dumb one. Maybe more of a Tone Law question.

During COVID I bought a [NOTORIOUSLY LITIGIOUS GUITAR COMPANY] 330 copy. It’s not the best guitar in my arsenal but it plays/sounds decent and looks cool as hell. It’s currently disassembled but I kinda want to get it back in working condition again.

What legal risks do I run into if I start playing it live, i.e. if someone from [NOTORIOUSLY LITIGIOUS GUITAR COMPANY] sees a picture of it online, on a forum or elsewhere? Am I worrying about this too much? (Yes probably, but I’d like to know by how much.)

For what it’s worth it does not bear the logo of [NOTORIOUSLY LITIGIOUS GUITAR COMPANY], though anyone with any passing familiarity could see it and know instantly what it’s aping.
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