cakes wrote: Wed Jan 28, 2026 11:56 am

Bernardo wrote: Wed Jan 28, 2026 11:52 am I guess this goes here: the band Earth just last-minute cancelled a concert in Italy, right before going onstage, because there was a palestine flag on display inside the venue.

Not sure I ever gave any thought on what Dylan Carlson's political views might be, but ugh.

If that's the only reason, boy that's the dummest hill to die on.

As far as it's been reported it's the exact reason. The band asked that the flag was removed, the venue refused and the concert got cancelled over it at the spot.

OrthodoxEaster wrote: Wed Jan 28, 2026 7:26 am I said it earlier in the thread, but aesthetically—from Trump and Noem to Newsom and Mamdani, despite the massive policy and ethical gulfs between them—politics is basically full Hollywood these days. Reagan cast a long shadow in that respect (and alas, in many others).

that's bait dot gif

When has music ever stopped being political!?

I feel vindicated in my belief that Earth has always sucked. Boring Zionist drone.

cakes wrote: Wed Jan 28, 2026 11:56 am

Bernardo wrote: Wed Jan 28, 2026 11:52 am I guess this goes here: the band Earth just last-minute cancelled a concert in Italy, right before going onstage, because there was a palestine flag on display inside the venue.

Not sure I ever gave any thought on what Dylan Carlson's political views might be, but ugh.

If that's the only reason, boy that's the dummest hill to die on.

He's very much a PNW libertarian. More guns, fewer laws, let people decide what to do.

Which is fine until you start ignoring how your inactions hurt others. He hasn't seemed to get to the second part of the simple equation. He and Thor Harris had it out over twitter during vax times.

Disappointing, not surprising. We often conflate the will of the people with the actions of their governments and punish the former because it's easier than confronting the latter.

The internet has broken my spelling brain so bad I had to look up whether my instinct for "latter" was correct in that usage.

Bernardo wrote: Wed Jan 28, 2026 11:52 am I guess this goes here: the band Earth just last-minute cancelled a concert in Italy, right before going onstage, because there was a palestine flag on display inside the venue.

Not sure I ever gave any thought on what Dylan Carlson's political views might be, but ugh.

He provided the gun to Kurt that he blew his head off with.

Great to see a couple of failsons going at it like the school yard bullies they are.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd6wpdpylj1o

Gramsci wrote: Wed Jan 28, 2026 12:56 pm

Bernardo wrote: Wed Jan 28, 2026 11:52 am I guess this goes here: the band Earth just last-minute cancelled a concert in Italy, right before going onstage, because there was a palestine flag on display inside the venue.

Not sure I ever gave any thought on what Dylan Carlson's political views might be, but ugh.

He provided the gun to Kurt that he blew his head off with.

Well I hope the rest of the European tour audience know to bring their keffiyehs and flags and such. Bern tomorrow!

cakes wrote: Wed Jan 28, 2026 11:36 am I hope so. And X. Would love to see these networks destroyed. Elon is never going to give up, though.

This is where the limits of my old-man-ness caught up with me. I joined the chorus of "why would anybody pay for this teenage bullshit, what a moron" and had no idea that Twitter actually rules humanity, but it really does. He basically bought modern thought, what little of it there is. And with his money he can afford to keep it going forever. But Hollywood propaganda is nothing new...so many evil countries to lambast, so much victimhood to claim. They premiered a Disney movie about Pearl Harbor in 2000 aboard an active duty US nuclear aircraft carrier affixed with a movie screen.

Top Gun, Iron Eagle.....waves at 80's "bro culture" broadly.

All copaganda.