What is the verdict on Radiohead?

CRAP
Total votes: 19 (20%)
NOT CRAP
Total votes: 48 (52%)
SHRUG
Total votes: 26 (28%)
Total votes: 93

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llllllllllllllllllll wrote: Sun Jun 29, 2025 10:09 pm Except Radiohead has very deep ties to Israel and spent a long time name dropping Chomsky and sort of capitalizing on Occupy Wall Street energy and such during their heyday. I read Naomi Klein as a kid because of them.

Pretty much any band who plays shows in Israel is getting, from bands like Big Thief (I think the homie that left was in the IDF) and ofc Nick Cave. Thom Yorke is uniquely stupid so it’s kind of been a PR disaster for him.

Go back and read interviews from around OK Computer and on.
This is also a good point. It's not like the band was always apolitical and someone was unfairly platforming Yorke. I just don't need much from him on the topic and can't really agonize over his lack of an erudite analysis on geopolitics. Maybe I have a hypocritical streak of, "Shut up and play!" in me reserved for musicians I like whose politics may ever take away from my enjoyment.
llllllllllllllllllll wrote: Sun Jun 29, 2025 10:09 pm Also I think anyone who bumps the Sam Harris thread is weird on Islam in general.
See now, this is a little of that leftist puritanical thing Gramsci was on about from my point of view. I couldn't remember who Harris was and rediscovered that thread to find him saying that Harris's politics were utter shit. I like allowing for people to think through the good and bad points of any public figure without calling, "Witch!"

Neil Young has both nailed it and been offensively, embarrassingly wrong at different points over the years when he's leaned into political or social issues. I think there's a reason no FMs are pulling his shittiest quote and saying he can get fucked. That would be an overall loss. Too many good songs.

We contain multitudes, I suppose I'm saying. Most geniuses are also idiots in some respect.

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losthighway wrote: Mon Jun 30, 2025 11:21 am
llllllllllllllllllll wrote: Sun Jun 29, 2025 10:09 pm Except Radiohead has very deep ties to Israel and spent a long time name dropping Chomsky and sort of capitalizing on Occupy Wall Street energy and such during their heyday. I read Naomi Klein as a kid because of them.

Pretty much any band who plays shows in Israel is getting, from bands like Big Thief (I think the homie that left was in the IDF) and ofc Nick Cave. Thom Yorke is uniquely stupid so it’s kind of been a PR disaster for him.

Go back and read interviews from around OK Computer and on.
This is also a good point. It's not like the band was always apolitical and someone was unfairly platforming Yorke. I just don't need much from him on the topic and can't really agonize over his lack of an erudite analysis on geopolitics. Maybe I have a hypocritical streak of, "Shut up and play!" in me reserved for musicians I like whose politics may ever take away from my enjoyment.
llllllllllllllllllll wrote: Sun Jun 29, 2025 10:09 pm Also I think anyone who bumps the Sam Harris thread is weird on Islam in general.
See now, this is a little of that leftist puritanical thing Gramsci was on about from my point of view. I couldn't remember who Harris was and rediscovered that thread to find him saying that Harris's politics were utter shit. I like allowing for people to think through the good and bad points of any public figure without calling, "Witch!"

Neil Young has both nailed it and been offensively, embarrassingly wrong at different points over the years when he's leaned into political or social issues. I think there's a reason no FMs are pulling his shittiest quote and saying he can get fucked. That would be an overall loss. Too many good songs.

We contain multitudes, I suppose I'm saying. Most geniuses are also idiots in some respect.
This is a pretty good summary/middle ground.

Honestly I’m sick od the Fight to the Death every political debate has turned into.

I saw Mamdani quote someone in an interview when asked about the left’s habit of going into a circular firing squad at a heart beat over individual differences. I’m paraphrasing but he said, “If I have 10 policies and we agree on 8 fantastic, if we agree on 10 see a shrink”

The left need to stop this fucking purity testing on every detail. In the video with Sam Seder and 20 rightwing loons asking him questions one of the goblins was interviewed at the end, he said “well, we’re all conservatives and don’t agree on everything but we’re all conservatives so we’ve got to stick together”

That’s why they fucking win people.
clocker bob may 30, 2006 wrote:I think the possibility of interbreeding between an earthly species and an extraterrestrial species is as believable as any other explanation for the existence of George W. Bush.

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Example A.

Dumb rockstar says dumb thing. World goes mad.

clocker bob may 30, 2006 wrote:I think the possibility of interbreeding between an earthly species and an extraterrestrial species is as believable as any other explanation for the existence of George W. Bush.

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Krev wrote: Mon Jun 30, 2025 12:42 pm What Neil Young said was fucking awful. He was basically a proto-Trumper at the time. Glad he's ostensibly moved beyond that, although he's never apologized. He's not much better than Crapton in that regard.
As much as I love Young's music, he is often the dumbest man of rock'n'roll. He has - time after time - backed Republican president and then gotten wise again. It's great he can admit being wrong, but ffs, how many times can he jump on the wrong bandwagon? Also "Let's roll for freedom / Let's roll for love / We're going after Satan / On the wings of a dove / Let's roll for justice / Let's roll for truth"...

But then: "If you're a fascist then get a Tesla
If it's electric, it doesn't matter
If you're a democrat, then taste your freedom".

But yeah, Radiohead. Musically Not Crap. Fuck that "wants to sound like U2" crap.

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Fuck Bono. That book Frontman is complete take down of neoliberalism’s greatest hype man.
clocker bob may 30, 2006 wrote:I think the possibility of interbreeding between an earthly species and an extraterrestrial species is as believable as any other explanation for the existence of George W. Bush.

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