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161 by Boombats_Archive
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John George Peppers wrote:
Boombats wrote: Sure meat tastes good, so does baby flesh.

For one brief moment, you actually made sense. Hmmmm, young flesh. Veal anyone?


Okay, jokes aside you tell me one thing about what I said in my last post that doesn't make sense. Keep in mind I'm not telling you what to eat.

If you want to be childish about it and not answer my question then you will be forfeiting your arguement.
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162 by John George Peppers_Archive
Boombats wrote:
John George Peppers wrote:Come on you guys are crying out for the real thing!!! Stop the lies...
I you really want a burger why don't you have one. If you want veggies just have a fucking salad. Stop insulting everyone with this business of a Vegetable Hamburger. It's this kind of Hubris which makes all of you vegetarians look like ridiculous assholes.


If vegetarians wanted to eat meat as bad as you say, then they'd fucking eat it. Sure meat tastes good, so does baby flesh. So when you get used to a taste and format but want to change your eating habits, it's easier to have a meat substitute so that you don't cave in to the flesh that's sold everywhere.


I'm not telling you what to eat as well. This whole concept seems quite ridiculous. If you have a craving for meat eat meat! Eat free range organic etc,etc, real meat. Have a small piece it is not going to kill you. It's not like I'm pushing crack here.

It's not like your an alcoholic where a small drop of alcohol will send you into a drunken tailspin. It's that your retort??? That if you have a small piece of meat, you just have uncontrollable cravings for more and more red meat thus losing all dietary will power. (this is half in jest)

Also, I realize to be a true vegetarian/vegan its just not that simple. You can't have a small piece of meat and be a "true" vegetarian. I goes against what you stand for. Well, then I guess I lump you in with all the other fanatical groups. Those who march forward with the blinders of their beliefs restricting them from the resonable conflicting views and realities around them.

I've said it in the past in this thread, I'll say it again. I've tried most Veggie foods, yes even the dredded veggie burger(what a joke).

I like tofu. Recently I ate at a vegetarian resteraunt for lunch. I have no problems whatsoever with vegetarians........................(punchline)............just with your lack of accepting meat, in moderation, as a healty diatary choice. Again any other group, religious, political, etc, etc, if you just across the board prohibit something it's just not right. Even if you strongly believe in one side of a argument/belief you should always accept a bit of the other side in your life. ?right? Vegetarians have a smalll piece of meat and I'll eat 50% of my meals kosher vegetarian this week. Balance, my friends. Balance.

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However, don't create fake products. These foods are just a joke and just as processed as their meat counterparts. Just because something is avalible doesn't make it right.
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164 by Adam CR
John George Peppers wrote:I'm not telling you what to eat as well.


And yet in the same post:

John George Peppers wrote:If you have a craving for meat eat meat!


and:

John George Peppers wrote:Eat free range organic etc,etc, real meat.


and:

John George Peppers wrote:I've said it in the past in this thread, I'll say it again. I've tried most Veggie foods, yes even the dredded veggie burger(what a joke).


and:

John George Peppers wrote:Vegetarians have a smalll piece of meat and I'll eat 50% of my meals kosher vegetarian this week.


and:

John George Peppers wrote:However, don't create fake products.


All this meat doesn't seem to have created quite the genius you consider yourself to be. Perhaps you should switch to fish, apparently it's good for the brain.

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165 by Adam CR
Marsupialized wrote:haha yes it's very brave to not eat a hamburger very brave


I don't think anybody claimed it was particularly brave, just that it requires self discipline and commitment. Self-discipline and commitment seem to be two characteristics that (for whatever reason) many people are uncomfortable with when seen in others.

Perhaps people consider that these characteristics highlight their own failings (as they see them).

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166 by Earwicker_Archive
Adam CR wrote:
Marsupialized wrote:haha yes it's very brave to not eat a hamburger very brave


I don't think anybody claimed it was particularly brave, just that it requires self discipline and commitment. Self-discipline and commitment seem to be two characteristics that (for whatever reason) many people are uncomfortable with when seen in others.

Perhaps people consider that these characteristics highlight their own failings (as they see them).


I can dig this.
Someone said above that they tried vegetarianism on account of their distance from the process of killing. That's why I went piscetarian for a while. I felt that if I couldn't or wouldn't kill the animal then I shouldn't be eating it (I like the idea of Halal - it seems like more respect and thought is being given to the process of killing).

I think most people these days just block out the bloody killing of the animals they eat and meeting or talking to a vegetarian could unblock that for a while - remind them of the sidestepping of the moral decision.

Not sure if that's clear. What I mean is (most) veggies have made a moral decision to not eat meat. Most meat eaters haven't made any moral decision - they have just sidestepped the moral issue all together. Meeting the veggie reminds them they should be making a moral decision about it.

John George Peppers wrote:I'm not telling you what to eat as well. This whole concept seems quite ridiculous. If you have a craving for meat eat meat! Eat free range organic etc,etc, real meat. Have a small piece it is not going to kill you.


You do realise you contradicted yourself in the space of two lines?

Having no meat is not going to kill anyone either.
Why on earth are you getting so angry about this? If someone doesn't want to eat meat for a moral reason but they like the taste of it then let them eat meat tasting soya without giving them grief.

I can't think of a single reason why you would be getting so angry about it.

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167 by bassdriver_Archive
Earwicker wrote:I think most people these days just block out the bloody killing of the animals they eat and meeting or talking to a vegetarian could unblock that for a while - remind them of the sidestepping of the moral decision.

AMEN

and hey I like to barbecue soy sausages and I don't give a shit what a carnivore thinks about that.

the fact that there's some free antibiotics and growth hormone in a big mac does not mean that burgers are healthy.

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168 by six acre lake_Archive
HCT wrote:
six acre lake wrote:Of course you smoke. A lot of the vegans I know smoke. Seriously WTF.

Watch the discovery channel for a while and then watch how our society is structured...Then tell me if you dont consider us animals.


I'm aware of it and I'll tell you now that I don't consider us animals.

Yes I smoke. What's the conflict? You're either assuming I'm vegan for health reasons or that I'm concerned by a very small amount of animals being killed as part of tobacco harvesting. As someone else said, pretty much any type of harvesting involving machinery is going to kill some animals. I'm not going to suggest that farmers abandon their combine harvesters to save a tiny percentage of the world's mice.


Of course i assume your a vegan for health reasons! Why else would you do it? Certinly not because of convenience. Sure maybe there is some animal love in there to.

Vegans who smoke are ridiculious its like being a black klansman.
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169 by Earwicker_Archive
six acre lake wrote:
Of course i assume your a vegan for health reasons! Why else would you do it? Certinly not because of convenience. Sure maybe there is some animal love in there to.

Vegans who smoke are ridiculious its like being a black klansman.


Have you not thought it starts with the animal love (an unfortunate sentence that is amusing enough to not change)

On saying that the smoking vegan is a little odd because they are harming an animal - themselves.
And also others around them if you take passive smoking into account.
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