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Re: Politics

1791 by ChudFusk
enframed wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2024 12:01 pm
ChudFusk wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2024 11:54 am
Gramsci wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:45 am You don’t needed to attach any isms to a platform that would materially improve people’s lives.
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The isms serve to confuse and divide. You can’t eat isms and they don’t mean anything without being tied to clear actions and intents. If we have clear actions and intents then we don’t need labels for the method of delivery.
This is America, branding is VERY important. Acting like it isn't doesn't help.
How does calling social support services like Medicaid etc. "socialism" help? So far it's only hurt.

No amount of branding is going to help Kamala Harris become more palatable to Trump voters.
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Re: Politics

1792 by losthighway
ChudFusk wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2024 3:33 pm
enframed wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2024 12:01 pm
ChudFusk wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2024 11:54 am

👏👏👏👏

The isms serve to confuse and divide. You can’t eat isms and they don’t mean anything without being tied to clear actions and intents. If we have clear actions and intents then we don’t need labels for the method of delivery.
This is America, branding is VERY important. Acting like it isn't doesn't help.
How does calling social support services like Medicaid etc. "socialism" help? So far it's only hurt.

No amount of branding is going to help Kamala Harris become more palatable to Trump voters.
No but the important question is what kind of branding will motivate everyone else.

Re: Politics

1793 by ChudFusk
losthighway wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2024 3:37 pm
ChudFusk wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2024 3:33 pm
enframed wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2024 12:01 pm

This is America, branding is VERY important. Acting like it isn't doesn't help.
How does calling social support services like Medicaid etc. "socialism" help? So far it's only hurt.

No amount of branding is going to help Kamala Harris become more palatable to Trump voters.
No but the important question is what kind of branding will motivate everyone else.
I should have said "undecided" or "swing voters" or the more accurate term "fucking idiots." I.e people who voted for Obama then Trump then Biden.

Just to be clear, I voted for Obama and Biden, but I didn't take the Trump detour. The people who did are a special kind of stupid, but they are the ones that any candidate has to court, which is why this county is so farkakte.
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Re: Politics

1794 by Gramsci
Watching from across the pond I just see the whole ecosystem surrounding Trump as just some insane fever dream. Post-modern doesn’t even come close. It’s actually like watching a weird dystopian film version of an election. I think directed by Paul Verhoeven.
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Re: Politics

1796 by penningtron
So far I'm seeing people I wouldn't have expected to rally behind Harris as the right move: more enthusiasm than I've seen for Biden, well, ever pretty much. Also the GOP is currently shitting its pants about it which is also a good sign.

The real head-scratcher has been Bernie and AOC in recent weeks. It's like they are committed to losing.
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Re: Politics

1797 by ErickC
I have a bad feeling that racism and misogyny are going to all but guarantee a repeat of 2016, except this time the public knows how bad Trump is, and would rather have four more years of fascist kleptocracy than one of "those people" in the white house.
ChudFusk wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2024 3:41 pmI should have said "undecided" or "swing voters" or the more accurate term "fucking idiots." I.e people who voted for Obama then Trump then Biden.
I know Family Guy isn't necessarily popular here, but one quote will always ring true to me: "Lois, undecided voters are the biggest idiots on the planet."
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Re: Politics

1799 by Gramsci
It’s interesting Obama implied that he wants an open convention…
clocker bob may 30, 2006 wrote:I think the possibility of interbreeding between an earthly species and an extraterrestrial species is as believable as any other explanation for the existence of George W. Bush.

Re: Politics

1800 by Gramsci
ErickC wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2024 4:09 pm I have a bad feeling that racism and misogyny are going to all but guarantee a repeat of 2016, except this time the public knows how bad Trump is, and would rather have four more years of fascist kleptocracy than one of "those people" in the white house.
ChudFusk wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2024 3:41 pmI should have said "undecided" or "swing voters" or the more accurate term "fucking idiots." I.e people who voted for Obama then Trump then Biden.
I know Family Guy isn't necessarily popular here, but one quote will always ring true to me: "Lois, undecided voters are the biggest idiots on the planet."
Luckily in the UK last election we all agreed fuck the Tories.
clocker bob may 30, 2006 wrote:I think the possibility of interbreeding between an earthly species and an extraterrestrial species is as believable as any other explanation for the existence of George W. Bush.
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