yaledelay wrote:Ok, so the Hi-Fi have a sampler (we have two DR Samples) we mostly sample oursevles, making noises with effect pedals... I really like the idea of a sampler as an instrument, however we vastly under use our samplers, right now we have a song that could use some 8-bit type video game noises, are there any web sites that have cleared samples I can get my hands on? or any sites that have sampled sounds that are so old they are fair use by now?

I just bought an Mac Labtop, so if there are programs you kids use to manipulate stuff let me know, esp if you have a pitchshifter/harmonizer type stuff...

segaface wrote:

yaledelay wrote:Ok, so the Hi-Fi have a sampler (we have two DR Samples) we mostly sample oursevles, making noises with effect pedals... I really like the idea of a sampler as an instrument, however we vastly under use our samplers, right now we have a song that could use some 8-bit type video game noises, are there any web sites that have cleared samples I can get my hands on? or any sites that have sampled sounds that are so old they are fair use by now?

I just bought an Mac Labtop, so if there are programs you kids use to manipulate stuff let me know, esp if you have a pitchshifter/harmonizer type stuff...

Yale,

There's a slew of 8bit style "Nintendo" VST's over at KVR Audio.

http://www.kvraudio.com/get.php?mode=results&st=f&q=nintendo

You'll need a VST host to use them, though.

Andy

segaface wrote:

yaledelay wrote:Ok, so the Hi-Fi have a sampler (we have two DR Samples) we mostly sample oursevles, making noises with effect pedals... I really like the idea of a sampler as an instrument, however we vastly under use our samplers, right now we have a song that could use some 8-bit type video game noises, are there any web sites that have cleared samples I can get my hands on? or any sites that have sampled sounds that are so old they are fair use by now?

I just bought an Mac Labtop, so if there are programs you kids use to manipulate stuff let me know, esp if you have a pitchshifter/harmonizer type stuff...

Yale,

There's a slew of 8bit style "Nintendo" VST's over at KVR Audio.

http://www.kvraudio.com/get.php?mode=results&st=f&q=nintendo

You'll need a VST host to use them, though.

Andy

hbc wrote:This might be a little too nerdy for you, but if you want specifically video-game sounding samples, you might want to try an NSD player. Its an application that plays .nsd files, which are dumps of the sound information from Nintendo carts. They have individual sound effects, as well as the music for the game. The interesting thing is that these sounds are made by a tiny synth on a chip, with a couple of saw and square oscillators, etc. The NSD player that I messed around with allowed each synth channel to be isolated, so if, for example, you wanted just the bassline of Mike Tyson's Punch-out, you could just Mute 3 of the 4 channels and you'd be all set.

As far as these being free from copyright claims, they're probably very not. But fuck it, just start brushing up on your "recontextualization" arguments.

And sorry I don't have any link action, try googling nsd player, I'm about to leave work, and with it, the internet, any second now.

yaledelay wrote:Great first post, always good to see other MKE posters, I will now ask a stupid question, what is a VST???

kerble wrote:

eliya wrote:I'm not a synth guy and am not familiar with all the synths you own, I do know some of them. The evolver can make some sounds that I believe your synths can't. It's got fat killer lows and crystalic highs, but it's not just that, you can use it for everything and manipulate it in any way you want. Also, it's half analog and half digital. 2 oscs are digital and 2 osc are analog, the filter is all digital though. anyhow, this thing is awesome.
I didn't find the nord lead being too similar and the sounds I heard coming out of a nord lead are pretty much different than those coming out of the evolver.

sure, but the evolver can't sound like my combo organ or my electronic piano (all analog piano synth btw) or any of my other keybaords. It does what it does, and my collection does what it does, too. i just have a huge range of sounds and tones and key styles to choose from instead of just one keybaord.

kerble wrote:

eliya wrote:besides, it's not fair! You got some smoking deals on your stuff!

that's what I'm telling him to do. Instead of buying an expensive synth for a sample library, keep an eye out for great deals and build your sound with them.

kerble wrote:though i would totally buy an evolver if I found one for a good price.

it's an excellent synthesizer.

segaface wrote:

yaledelay wrote:Great first post, always good to see other MKE posters, I will now ask a stupid question, what is a VST???

Cool, thanks.

VST is a plug-in format used by DAWs like Cubase / Nuendo / Reaper / Tracktion / Audacity / etc. You would hook up the VST instrument as an insert on a track and "play" it using a MIDI controller. I checked the page again, and the plugins are all Windows VST only. Shitty. You would probably need a buddy with a PC and a DAW to play the instrument(s), then render them to an audio track so you could slice them up and use them in your sampler.

eliya wrote:I second bass driver suggestion about getting an old synth. I also suggest Dave Smith Instruments' Evolver. My friend has one and this thing is the coolest synthesizer ever, it's monophonic but has so much possibilities. It's kinda hard at first to understand how the thing works, but once you understand it, it can be really awesome. I have a two minutes audio file of my friend playing with the evolver, I can upload it if you're interested.

You can take some text files or other system files and change their extension to WAV. then load it into something like Wavelab and you'll have tons of squeaks. If I remember correctly, Wavelab can open system files without converting them. I believe that these sounds you're getting are usually just lots of small bursts of sound, if you want to "extend" the sound you can use some plug-in that has a "hold" function. The hold thing will play your current position in the sample until you turn it off. You can also cut the squeaks and squeals and load them to a digital sampler like battery where you can set an "internal" loop in every sample. You set the beginning and end of the loop(inside the sample) and and the number of times it'll repeat it.

It'll be a nice "concept" to take the recorded HiFi songs, change their extensions to txt, open them in notepad and save them as a text. then load that text file to something like Wavelab, or change the extension again to txt(I believe it won't be music file again once you saved through a text editor). That way you'll be using your band's stuff for your new stuff.

A Totem Pole wrote:Hey, I googled this and can't find shit. Did you mean something else or am I just a dumbass?