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Re: Have y’all seen the Zoom R20 multi-track Recorder? Opinions?

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:23 am
by A_Man_Who_Tries
Yeah, that's a very odd one. Not my field but those in the sound recording game I work with swear by those Zoom things for being able to weather a serious beating.

Re: Have y’all seen the Zoom R20 multi-track Recorder? Opinions?

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 11:37 pm
by Mickey242
TylerDeadPine wrote: Fri Dec 24, 2021 9:04 pm
bishopdante wrote: Wed Dec 22, 2021 5:51 pm Bd + initial semi careful kept in a briefcase and not used to hammer nails work in W11 London postcode + H6 : six weeks.

Not moisture tolerant: microphones killed by 100% humidity, unit killed by liquid ingress & corrosion.

It also got dropped subsequently while dead, in its zoom-branded snug fitting case, from waist height, which knocked a corner in leaving a big hole, enabling the view into the interior of greenery. Moulded thermoplastic, probably not even ABS or nylon. The cat sat on it and jumped off. The way it broke, I suspected it had been designed to do that. I'll dig out some of the disassembled photos of the inside of the H6... it's bad.

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My hatred of zoom equipment comes from their '90s floor multi effects units which people insisted on using, and would turn up with a pile of intermittent ones asking if somebody could rebuild it reliable at any cost, and that they can't use something else, that is their sound.

Past that... my opinion is deliberately uneducated/inexperienced. I avoid it. I like zoom almost as much as I like Microsoft.

It's really cheap for what it does. That's because they do things like having no conformal coating on the motherboard of a location recorder. Built cheap to break fast. Featuristic while working.
I've seen zoom handhelds in the hands of some serious field audio people doing great work - in this you are doing yourself a disservice.
I use them. Many people who make real money and are worth their wait in gold, that make good stereo recordings, who make money recording live music use them. They are good, end of story.

Re: Have y’all seen the Zoom R20 multi-track Recorder? Opinions?

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:10 am
by TylerDeadPine
That enamel pin is sick, thank you for that.
Mickey242 wrote: Fri Dec 31, 2021 11:37 pm
They are good, end of story.

Re: Have y’all seen the Zoom R20 multi-track Recorder? Opinions?

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:35 pm
by turnbullac
…and how bout that R20?

Re: Have y’all seen the Zoom R20 multi-track Recorder? Opinions?

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 4:39 am
by seby
bishopdante wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 12:22 am
turnbullac wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:35 pm …and how bout that R20?
This is a thread about a dodgy R16... but this is exactly what I am talking about https://www.soundonsound.com/forum/view ... 16&t=40039
Looking at its specs, my miff on the R20 is that it tops out at 44.1 (in 2022, for reals?) and does not have phantom on the first four inputs. I know that they are kinda cheap for this type of thing, but still : /

Re: Have y’all seen the Zoom R20 multi-track Recorder? Opinions?

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 9:17 am
by bassdriver
I owned a used Zoom R24 as well and used it a lot to record band practice. loved it for the same reasons other folks mentioned before. set up a new file, set the gain pots, record, take the SD card home and mix in reaper. never even looked in all the mixing possibilities of the Zoom recorder. worked perfectly fine for me.

Re: Have y’all seen the Zoom R20 multi-track Recorder? Opinions?

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 12:41 am
by Chud Fusk
The R20 looks ok for someone who's just fucking around and doesn't have a computer that they can use a DAW on, but I would much rather have a Zoom LiveTrak LS-12 and dump the multitracks into my DAW. In fact, I do have one, and it's a great audio capturing device.

Re: Have y’all seen the Zoom R20 multi-track Recorder? Opinions?

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 11:24 pm
by numberthirty
I tend to agree that it "Feels..." like a person might get better mileage out of the LiveTrak family or the Tascam series that is the "LiveTrak..." equivalent.

Just seem like they would fare a bit better in the old Eddie Van Halen "Crash Test..." when I have actually seen them.

Re: Have y’all seen the Zoom R20 multi-track Recorder? Opinions?

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2022 8:38 am
by Chud Fusk
What's the EVH CT?