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act: giving to panhandlers
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 12:51 pm
by bigc_Archive
Rick Reuben wrote:bigc wrote: people are reacting to what the cut and dry facts of his 'experiment' are.
No, they're not. They're claiming that Shepard's experiment has no relevance to actual homelessness, so they are making a complete departure from the cut and dry facts.
Based on your definition of homelessness, they're correct.
act: giving to panhandlers
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 12:53 pm
by Sourmilk_Archive
"He designed an experiment that re-created the conditions of homelessness."
And what I'm saying to you is: "No, he didn't."
"If I tie a blindfold around my eyes and attempt to cross Western Avenue at the crosswalk, am I not experiencing blindness?"
I'm not sure, but I want to say "No, you're not." But I realize you'd be making an effort which must be worth something to someone.
act: giving to panhandlers
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 12:58 pm
by bigc_Archive
Rick Reuben wrote:bigc wrote:It's clear that this kid proved close to nothing that we don't already know
It's not what liberals know that bother them. It's people making them
admit what they know about homelessness that infuriates them. Liberals hate when a story like the Shepard case forces them to depart from their dogma, which is that "It is always the system's fault, it is always the system's fault.... ad nauseum"
Then, after blaming the system for every misery and exempting the individuals from accountability, the liberals turn around and beg for more money for the system-
right after they blamed the system for every misery inflicted on the homeless!
Robots with cognitive dissonance.
Not one single person here has said what you are arrtibuting to them. You're rambling about somehting irrelevant.
The system does not do a good enough job of addressig homelessness. That seems simple.
act: giving to panhandlers
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 12:58 pm
by spex_Archive
Rick Reuben wrote:Sourmilk wrote:"He designed an experiment that re-created the conditions of homelessness."
And what I'm saying to you is: "No, he didn't."
You are saying that his experiment has zero relevance to the real world of homelessness?? Zero? Really?
Are you saying it had anything more than marginal relevance to the real world of homelessness?
act: giving to panhandlers
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 12:59 pm
by bigc_Archive
Rick Reuben wrote:Sourmilk wrote:"He designed an experiment that re-created the conditions of homelessness."
And what I'm saying to you is: "No, he didn't."
You are saying that his experiment has zero relevance to the real world of homelessness?? Zero? Really?
"If I tie a blindfold around my eyes and attempt to cross Western Avenue at the crosswalk, am I not experiencing blindness?"
I'm not sure, but I want to say "No, you're not."
Really? I'm crossing a street without the use of my eyes,
just like a blind person.
Just LIKE a blind person, not AS a blind person.
act: giving to panhandlers
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:11 pm
by Sourmilk_Archive
From what I understand, many blind people attune the other senses - moreso than the average, not-blind person.
You're just some stupid shit with a blindfold on.
This is my problem with the Adam Shepard experiment. Christ, I cannot even believe I'm calling it an experiment.
act: giving to panhandlers
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:13 pm
by nfurnier_Archive
Rick Reuben wrote:bigc wrote:It's clear that this kid proved close to nothing that we don't already know
It's not what liberals know that bother them. It's people making them
admit what they know about homelessness that infuriates them. Liberals hate when a story like the Shepard case forces them to depart from their dogma, which is that "It is always the system's fault, it is always the system's fault.... ad nauseum"
I have a hard time believing that if a for real homeless person achieved the same goals, the typical left leaning person wouldn't be encouraged by the result. It wouldn't give them a reason to stop tinkering with more government though. Most people just find it crass that someone would pretend to be homeless.
act: giving to panhandlers
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:16 pm
by Skronk_Archive
Sourmilk wrote:From what I understand, many blind people attune the other senses - moreso than the average, not-blind person.
You're just some stupid shit with a blindfold on.
Even if you have a blindfold on, after a while, your other senses become heightened.
act: giving to panhandlers
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:17 pm
by bigc_Archive
Rick Reuben wrote:bigc wrote:Just LIKE a blind person, not AS a blind person.
Are you saying that a person needs to actually blind himself to experience crossing a street sightless?
No, I'm saying a person needs to be blind himself to experience being blind.
act: giving to panhandlers
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:23 pm
by sunlore_Archive
Rick Reuben wrote:Get up on the stage and put your ideology to the test.
Nah, I'm cool with the fat lady singing.