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Champion Rabbit wrote:
Cranius wrote:*Any red wine will benefit from being opened and left next to the stove while you cook. The warmth will get rid the malodorous gases that build up in the air in neck of the bottle after its corked.


I've heard some very convincing arguments relating to the 'breathing' of wine that suggest that allowing a bottled wine to breath in it's bottle is pointless since 'breathing' requires a significant surface area of wine to be allowed contact with air.


Give it a try. I was under the impression that it was more to do with the gases in the neck than in the wine itself. Smell is half the flavour. Even a Beaujolais-Nouveau is infintely improved in this way.

Cranius wrote:Even the cheapest French reds are better than most new world wines*. Just look out for the AOC approval under the vineyard name on the label. As for whites, I'd say Italian all the way(particulary Pinot Grigio, Orvieto or Scilican Grillo).

BML wrote:Okay - We all know that French wines are the benchmark for all good wines. But Italian whites? you've got to be kidding! Pinot Grigo is what young girls drink because "it doesn't taste too much of wine"... and Grillo? next time I want something soft & sweet I'll give it a go again.


On the contrary, Grillo is savoury and crisp.

Pinot Grigio is underated. I really dislike Chardonnay and Sauvingnon Blanc. Grigio's modesty compliments seafood and I generally only drink wine whilst I'm eating.

Chile and New Zealand produce good wines, but given the choice I'd have to say French for red and Italian for white. Most importantly, good wine is moderately priced.

But what would I know! I only worked in a wine merchants for 2 years.
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I see none of you connoisseurs have made a mention of prized Moravian wines such as the Veltllínske zelené, the Rulandské bílé, nor of the classic Muller Thurgau. The sought-after Hungarian Tokaj has been similarly neglected.

Well, you can keep your Pinot Grigos and your Beaujolais-Nouveaus.

I'm sticking to my Macedonian Rosé*

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buzzsaw wrote:
Champion Rabbit wrote:Did you know that wine from the USA often has water added to it in order to weaken it's potency?

Apparently this is not allowed elsewhere.

Interesting I thought.

do you want to go ahead and quote your source?


The direct source was BBC Radio 4, but we can see what Google turns up...

"Yet there is an embarrassing feature of the Californian wine industry that the Paul Giamatti character neglects to mention: much of the wine output is “watered back”—or, dare one say, watered down. In other words, that fine cabernet or shiraz may have been produced with a judicious addition of water. Cue, one might assume, for consumer outrage, wine-buff alarm and—surely in litigious America—a raft of criminal prosecutions and civil lawsuits.

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"A twenty year old argument appeared to be approaching settlement earlier this week when US and EU negotiators arrived at a deal to recognise one another's winemaking practices. Europe would lift its opposition to the US practice of adding water to wine and adding wood chips to infuse wine with an oaky flavour - viewed by purists as a cheap way to achieve the flavours imparted to wine kept in new oak casks."

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Cranius wrote:
Give it a try.


Oh, I do open the bottle in advance of glugging; pure force of habit...

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This is just great guys. Not content with arguing about obscure avant garde musicand world politics, we're now fighting about wine. FUCKING WINE!

This must be the most bourgeois message board in the world.
Rick Reuben wrote:
daniel robert chapman wrote:I think he's gone to bed, Rick.
He went to bed about a decade ago, or whenever he sold his soul to the bankers and the elites.


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Rimbaud III wrote:I'm not seeing any love for Chilean wines here. You're all obviously twats.

THIS is my current fave.


Au contraire!

Champion Rabbit wrote:I ruddy love Chilean wines, me! I'll bet that Rimbaud bloke wades-in later in the thread claiming that he prefers their first album...tosser!

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Champion Rabbit wrote:
Rimbaud III wrote:I'm not seeing any love for Chilean wines here. You're all obviously twats.

THIS is my current fave.


Au contraire!

Champion Rabbit wrote:I ruddy love Chilean wines, me! I'll bet that Rimbaud bloke wades-in later in the thread claiming that he prefers their first album...tosser!


I had a great time touring around some Bodegas in Argentina last November. I'm not a huge Malbec fan but I have a few very good Cab Savs.

In your face with maximum bourgeois-ness-ly-ness Simo!!!
Reality

Popular Mechanics Report of 9-11

NIST Investigation of the World Trade Center Disaster

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Champion Rabbit wrote:
Rimbaud III wrote:I'm not seeing any love for Chilean wines here. You're all obviously twats.

THIS is my current fave.


Au contraire!

Champion Rabbit wrote:I ruddy love Chilean wines, me! I'll bet that Rimbaud bloke wades-in later in the thread claiming that he prefers their first album...tosser!


Who am I kidding, eh? I don't even like wine! I only said that to look cool like all you big boys. I'm only really interested in drinks like your stomp-box brew. Wine is for posh people and priests. I am neither.
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