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Re: Speak up for the great 'bastard child' albums.

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 2:36 pm
by brownreasontolive
jason from volo wrote: Wed Aug 18, 2021 2:16 pm
brownreasontolive wrote: Wed Aug 18, 2021 2:08 pm Pavement, "Watery Domestic" - I hear lots of folks say Slanted is their best, or even their only good album, which is insane. This follow-up smokes.
If somebody says they don't like Pavement, this 4 track EP is my conversion tactic.
++ on the shout-out to this disc, though not quite sure if I'd call it a "bastard child" album as it was released while they were at what I consider to be their peak. Three of the four tracks are amongst their best (apologies to the Linden Lions).
TEXAS NEVER WHISPERS!

To me it's definitely a bastard child.
My logic being that fans of Slanted and Carrot Rope alike seem to over look it, and it's release was still a few years ahead of Cut Your Hair hitting anyone's ears.

But for my taste, Crooked/Wowee Zowee is peak Pavement, so YMMV!

Re: Speak up for the great 'bastard child' albums.

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 3:21 pm
by zircona1
brownreasontolive wrote: Wed Aug 18, 2021 2:08 pm
Smashing Pumpkins, "Pisces Iscariot" - I guess it's a compilation or whatever, but as far as double albums go, I much prefer it to "Mellon Collie ".
I love the variety of material on this album, I used to play it all the time when I was in high school. 'Hello Kitty Kat' is one of their best, rip-roaring songs.

Re: Speak up for the great 'bastard child' albums.

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 6:09 pm
by horse_laminator
wot wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 8:29 pm
Pere Ubu's St. Arkansas is easily one of my favorite things they ever did.
Yes indeed, on of my favorites. I listen to latter day PU more than the classic early records, which I also love, I just find many of the post Ray Gun Suitcase albums more interesting.

Re: Speak up for the great 'bastard child' albums.

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 6:49 pm
by enframed
Everything Spoon recorded before they landed on Merge. I dislike everything that came after. Maybe it's different now, but back in the late US-90s people didn't like Spoon much. Merge ruined them. They should have stayed with a major label. That's not something often said.

Re: Speak up for the great 'bastard child' albums.

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 7:13 pm
by rsmurphy
A while back I went to see Jim DeRogatis and his Flaming Lips cover band, The Satellite Hearts, do a one-off at his book release party for Staring at Sound: The True Story of Oklahoma's Fabulous Flaming Lips. It was ok. Afterwards I asked why they didn't play any early material. He called me a fanboy and said nobody wants to hear "Shaved Gorilla." I do. I want to hear a Flaming Lips tribute band play "Shaved Gorilla."

The Flaming Lips - Telepathic Surgery is my submission to this thread. It's a beautiful, fucked-up, noisy mess of a record that nobody wants to hear, especially now, and it's amazing.

Re: Speak up for the great 'bastard child' albums.

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 7:53 pm
by losthighway
enframed wrote: Wed Aug 18, 2021 6:49 pm Everything Spoon recorded before they landed on Merge. I dislike everything that came after. Maybe it's different now, but back in the late US-90s people didn't like Spoon much. Merge ruined them. They should have stayed with a major label. That's not something often said.
This trashes like 5 of my favorite records, but to each their own.

Maybe those first couple kind of are bastards though. They're talked about much less and I can't remember listening to them.

Re: Speak up for the great 'bastard child' albums.

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 12:04 am
by Krev
kicker_of_elves wrote: Wed Aug 18, 2021 12:51 pm
motorbike guy wrote: Wed May 12, 2021 6:27 am

My entry in this list:
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Its just a great record. I find myself listening to this more than all my other Placemats records.
Have you listened to Dead Man's Pop? It's on my should-check-out list, but I'm having a hard time building up the gumption to listen to a remastered album that was originally marginal. Pleased To Meet Me was the best post-Bob record the Mats put out, everything else was just Paul solo album material. I totally own my bias, I think Stink and Sorry Ma...are both masterpieces.

My entry: Voivod-RRROOOAAARRR. The musicianship is solid and the songs are engaging, but the production really takes it out at the knees. It sounds like they were recording inside of a culvert.

RĂ–ARRRRRRRRR is fuckin' awesome. It's their most virulent record. Not exactly an album, but Coda by Led Zeppelin has "Wearing and Tearing," which might be their best song.

Re: Speak up for the great 'bastard child' albums.

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 6:53 am
by tonyballzee
My hand is raised in support of Drama, 0+2=1, Dead Letter Office, Into The Unknown, New Picnic Time and the muthafukin' Monkeywrench. And Fingerprint File,

Still not a big fan of Don't Tell A Soul but I saw the Placemats on that tour at the Aragon and they were bitchin'.

I really like Down by The Jesus Lizard. Obviously not as brutal as their previous albums but nevertheless full of great music.

3 Way Tie (For Last) is an anomaly in the Minutemen's catalog but it was the first record of theirs I bought. I kind of worked my way backwards through the rest of their stuff.

Soundtracks by Can is sandwiched between two classics but contains 14 1/2 glorious minutes of Mother Sky and the sublime She Brings The Rain.

Re: Speak up for the great 'bastard child' albums.

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 8:34 am
by Tom Wanderer
enframed wrote: Wed Aug 18, 2021 6:49 pm Everything Spoon recorded before they landed on Merge. I dislike everything that came after. Maybe it's different now, but back in the late US-90s people didn't like Spoon much. Merge ruined them. They should have stayed with a major label. That's not something often said.
A Series Of Sneaks (on Elektra) was the first thing I ever heard from Spoon and I bought it immediately. I still listen to it often. I tried a few that came later but gave up over a decade ago. That album is awesome. I don't know what happened to them.

I enjoy Nico's Cale produced harmonium albums, but I've been really into Drama Of Exile.

I don't think I've ever said this out loud before, but I've always preferred Aladdin Sane to Ziggy Stardust.

Breeders' Title TK rules.

I love American Stars N' Bars.

The Kinks' Percy has some filler, but also some INCREDIBLE songs.

Re: Speak up for the great 'bastard child' albums.

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 8:39 am
by Tom Wanderer
wot wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 8:29 pm At this point everyone knows Weezer's Pinkerton and Jawbreaker's Dear You are great albums, right?
No. Weezer is terrible. It was good when I was a teenager, and I had fond memories, but I heard Pinkerton a few years ago and I realized it was just as bad as all their other shit.