penningtron wrote:I never really thought of Slint along the lines of stuff like Confessor or Breadwinner but it seems clear now.
It's an opinion probably shared only by a handful people of a certain age and it might not make much sense to those retroactively wooed by Spiderland, but that's totally how I saw Slint.
I pretty much started listening to Slint and Bastro around the same time, and I got into them via sonic links to Bitch Magnet and Honor Role. (Breadwinner was a little later, but I group it w/the same crop of bands.) Every one of these had a slightly more metallic edge than a lot of what was big in the U.S. underground at the time. (Whereas your Sub Pop and AmRep groups were more cock rock than full-on metal.)
I remember reading a review of Tweez that went as far as to call it the missing link between Rapeman, Slovenly, and Metallica (!) or something like that.
Gramsci wrote:The Ethan mix is an okay thing to have. It’s sounds different… Tweez was a weird album recorded early in FMSteve’s recording career. The liner notes from Steve make it clear he was making up for inexperience with gimmicks. The Ethan mix does sound more like a demo… but don’t think that’s an excuse to make the drums flat and shitty sounding.
It's not necessarily better at all. In fact, it's way less cold and harsh, and ultimately, not as distinctive. But it also sounds less of its time, if that makes sense.
Again, I'd love to hear Slint's actual demo for the LP and can't quite understand why that didn't get a spit-shine for the reissue.
Re: Album by Slint: Tweez vs. Spiderland
Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2024 11:26 pm
by Krev
I get the Breadwinner comparison, but Confessor were firmly in the doom metal category.
Re: Album by Slint: Tweez vs. Spiderland
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2024 6:44 am
by penningtron
Krev wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 11:26 pm
I get the Breadwinner comparison, but Confessor were firmly in the doom metal category.
More metal for sure but some melodic and eccentric similarities.
Re: Album by Slint: Tweez vs. Spiderland
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2024 12:09 pm
by tallchris
Like the In Utero remix, I'm glad both versions exist, and I can hear things I like with both the original and the Ethan mix. I'll likely listen to the Ethan mix a few more times, and then whenever I get the hankering to Tweez, I'll go back to the original, same thing as w/ In Utero.
Re: Album by Slint: Tweez vs. Spiderland
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2024 12:13 pm
by Vibracobra
Was that Tweez demo recorded by Brian Paulson? By another guy? By the band themselves?
Re: Album by Slint: Tweez vs. Spiderland
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2024 12:17 pm
by tallchris
Vibracobra wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2024 12:13 pm
Was that Tweez demo recorded by Brian Paulson? By another guy? By the band themselves?
By the band on a boombox. I imagine it's not far off sound wise from the demos that came out with the Spiderland reissue a few years back:
Re: Album by Slint: Tweez vs. Spiderland
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2024 12:19 pm
by Vibracobra
Thanks!
Re: Album by Slint: Tweez vs. Spiderland
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2024 6:59 pm
by Dave N.
I’m digging the Ethan mix. I’m hearing things that I’ve never noticed, especially with the bass. True, the drums don’t sound as good, but everything else sounds better.
Re: Album by Slint: Tweez vs. Spiderland
Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2024 4:48 pm
by OrthodoxEaster
The reordered track listing is also interesting: Two noisier, heavier songs up front, followed by all the clean-tone songs in a row, then back to the distortion for the last three tunes.
Re: Album by Slint: Tweez vs. Spiderland
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2024 6:37 am
by the corpo
It's cool to hear, it does reveal little things here and there, but I don't think I'll return to it. Very much sounds like they reset the mixing board to 0, but then didn't do anything apart from panning (not counting the edits etc.)
Super flat drums render it all a bit lifeless.