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Re: Politics

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2025 9:02 pm
by Spite Zero
Seems legit

Project 2025 Tracker

Via Feminist News on Facebook.
www.project2025.observer is running a comparison between what Project 2025 said the President should plan to do once in office and what Trump has done so far, for all those family and friends who claimed that was all an anti-Trump conspiracy prior to election day. Plus it helps quickly show what the administration still has plans to do, so we can plan ahead as well.

Re: Politics

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2025 1:51 am
by Gramsci
AttackChimp wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 2:23 pm
Gramsci wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 2:03 pm I can’t stand the strain of leftism that sees America and its proxy Israel as the source of all the evil in the world.
All ten of them.

Are you referring to anti-zionists? Yeah, there's a ton of em in the left, but they don't believe the US and Israel are good for ALL evil in the world. Was that just hyperbole to make a point?
The second one. But there is a group in the left that get very upset if you criticise Russia, China or Iran. Maybe the first two is because they have some kind of residual idea those are socialist countries… Iran, because they’re anti US/Israel. All three are run by not good people and Iran is a rightwing theocratic capitalist state.

Anyhoo, I’ve argued with these people.

Re: Politics

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2025 5:16 am
by jimmy spako
RE: Ukraine

You also have to grasp that (ironically?! not ironically?!), Trump is proposing colonising a future "West Ukraine" in an open way that far surpasses any involvement/extraction of earlier admins. So, somehow we are now talking about the carving up of a formerly sovereign state.


Re: Politics

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2025 5:38 am
by JohnAlbert
AttackChimp wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 2:07 pm
losthighway wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 1:52 pm If you think that Ukraine, or any of their backers (U.S., NATO) having ever done anything unethical or provocative makes Putin's invasion justified, you just might be a tankie.
I know not a single leftist who believes this. Not one. Is fucking Sagar Enjeti a leftists now? The fuck?

...I'm pretty sure I just don't get it.
I know a few of these people too.

I call them "neo-tankes" because they still continue to parrot Russian talking points even after the fall of the Soviet Union and emergence of Putin as a fascist dictator. That to me is clear evidence that they're more beholden to authoritarianism than to any genuine leftist principles.

One of these folks is an old, dear friend of mine. He has leftist credentials, having written a lot of articles for CounterPunch. We got into it a number of times on Facebook, in the run-up to last year's election, because he was repeatedly and stridently telling people not to vote for Harris.

I wonder how he's feeling right now, seeing that Trump is literally advocating to clear all the Palestinians out of Gaza and bulldoze it to make way for luxury condos and hotels.

For more evidence of anti-Ukraine leftism, take a listen to episodes of Chapo Trap House over the last 4 years.

Re: Politics

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2025 6:24 am
by pb183max
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Modern Christians are some of the biggest liars and crooks in human history. Their primary concern right now is legalizing a child workforce and making it so they can assault children sexually under the pretense that they're of breeding age at 15. They wanna marry children. They've been taught to hoard money, and hate their neighbors for how they might potentially vote. They literally care for nobody but themselves.
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The naked offensiveness of this comment is de-fanged by its utter stupidity.

Re: Politics

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2025 6:49 am
by Gramsci
jimmy spako wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 5:16 am RE: Ukraine

You also have to grasp that (ironically?! not ironically?!), Trump is proposing colonising a future "West Ukraine" in an open way that far surpasses any involvement/extraction of earlier admins. So, somehow we are now talking about the carving up of a formerly sovereign state.

This is all just Trump blowhard nonsense. As dumb as it Resort Gaza idea... Yes, Trump is doing real bad stuff, but he's also just winging it and opening his mouth and letting the wind blow his tongue around.

It's important to separate the wheat from the chaff. I'm not sure if it's a deliberate distraction or if he's just got brain worms.

Re: Politics

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2025 7:09 am
by JohnAlbert
Gramsci wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 6:49 amThis is all just Trump blowhard nonsense. As dumb as it Resort Gaza idea...
Oh I don't doubt for a minute that he seriously thinks he's going to conquer the world. He's obviously a megalomaniacal narcissist.

My main concern is how many other politicians and corporate sociopaths are going to just go right along with him because it raises the value of their stocks.

Re: Politics

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2025 7:10 am
by JohnAlbert
Gramsci wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 6:49 amThis is all just Trump blowhard nonsense. As dumb as it Resort Gaza idea...
Oh I don't doubt for a minute that he seriously thinks he's going to conquer the world. He's obviously a megalomaniacal narcissist.

My main concern is how many other politicians and corporate sociopaths are going to just go right along with him because it raises the value of their stocks. This mob mentality could run totally out of control.

Re: Politics

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2025 7:41 am
by Gramsci
JohnAlbert wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 7:10 am
Gramsci wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 6:49 amThis is all just Trump blowhard nonsense. As dumb as it Resort Gaza idea...
Oh I don't doubt for a minute that he seriously thinks he's going to conquer the world. He's obviously a megalomaniacal narcissist.

My main concern is how many other politicians and corporate sociopaths are going to just go right along with him because it raises the value of their stocks. This mob mentality could run totally out of control.
If that were the case a lot of his headbanger supporters are in for a Fallujah style quagmire on a mass scale. I think some people forget that the US is not strong enough to unilaterally throw it's weight around anymore. Trump and Co could cause a lot of damage, but in the end will face reality.

Re: Politics

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2025 9:13 am
by zorg
JohnAlbert wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 5:38 am One of these folks is an old, dear friend of mine. He has leftist credentials, having written a lot of articles for CounterPunch. We got into it a number of times on Facebook, in the run-up to last year's election, because he was repeatedly and stridently telling people not to vote for Harris.

I wonder how he's feeling right now, seeing that Trump is literally advocating to clear all the Palestinians out of Gaza and bulldoze it to make way for luxury condos and hotels.
If you're suggesting that the administration that proudly razed Gaza, killed 50k (70% women and children) while at the same time denying basic humanitarian aid for the survivors.....all in the name of self-defense, was planning to rebuild Gaza for the Gazans, you can call me whatever you want.