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Today's shot of schadenfreude:

Tesla loses billions in stock and hackers have knocked out X multiple times.

On the positive side, Bernie would have won or certainly had a decent shot and he's back out there again making the case, possibly one last time, and his mantle is clearly up for grabs and people are already making plays for it (Walz etc.).

If the table had turned, I think we would have President Walz right now.

Krev wrote: Tue Mar 11, 2025 9:23 am If the table had turned, I think we would have President Walz right now.

You mean Kamala would have abdicated? Not sure if I understand.

I'm not convinced that guy had what it took to succeed. He was a serial liar about incredibly dumb, inconsequential stuff, when he should have been going big with lies. Also looked visibly befuddled when Vance unexpectedly stroked his ego during their debate. I don't think he'll be back. I could see some young buck taking over for Bernie...AOC or someone from that bunch, but it's a pretty thankless job to be the torchbearer for reasonability, so not sure if anybody is going to want that gig.

Walz did better before he started giving really scripted answers but even then, there are probably limits to how far he could go. But I'm also not a "Bernie would have won" type either, knowing how hard the right AND the center would go after him.

zorg wrote: Tue Mar 11, 2025 9:49 am

Krev wrote: Tue Mar 11, 2025 9:23 am If the table had turned, I think we would have President Walz right now.

You mean Kamala would have abdicated? Not sure if I understand.

I'm not convinced that guy had what it took to succeed. He was a serial liar about incredibly dumb, inconsequential stuff, when he should have been going big with lies. Also looked visibly befuddled when Vance unexpectedly stroked his ego during their debate. I don't think he'll be back. I could see some young buck taking over for Bernie...AOC or someone from that bunch, but it's a pretty thankless job to be the torchbearer for reasonability, so not sure if anybody is going to want that gig.

No, I mean middle America is misogynistic and won't elect a woman.

losthighway wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 8:51 pm hackers have knocked out X multiple times.

Oh so that's why it's been crashing even more than usual. I fail to see the point of this action.

X needs to formerly exist. We now have Truth Social as a conduit for lies.

Dovira wrote: Tue Mar 11, 2025 11:48 am

losthighway wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 8:51 pm hackers have knocked out X multiple times.

Oh so that's why it's been crashing even more than usual. I fail to see the point of this action.

Fewer clicks, fewer profits for X, no? I don't think it's anything more complicated than that.

Krev wrote: Tue Mar 11, 2025 12:05 pm X needs to formerly exist. We now have Truth Social as a conduit for lies.

I haven't opened my account quite yet.

While I really liked Walz, but I think Kamala did a number of things that doomed her campaign.
She should have picked Mark Kelly as running mate. That may have gained her Arizona and maybe a few other swing states, as his celebrity/astronaut status would have brought in more voters than than America's nerdy dad.

More importantly, her campaign failed to recognize that the election was about how the economy was failing too many people and those people just wanted change. I said this to my family about a month before the election that I thought the Dems needed to craft a message and policies that were populist from the left to counter the right wing populism from Tяump and his cult followers.