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ChudFusk wrote: Thu May 08, 2025 2:02 am Steve's review of John Zorn / Naked City came up in a Zorn FB group https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1698KaGNKm/

Here's a screenshot of the review: https://i.ibb.co/9knm6Ng3/Albini-reviews-Naked-City.jpg

While the discussion was mostly about Steve's taste in music, one weirdo tried to find what I can only assume he thinks is antisemitism in Steve's word choice. It was in reference to Zorn's methods of assembling artists from a variety of backgrounds and drawing from these diverse genres, which Steve called "parasitic." While I don't agree with Steve's assessment, I can't believe he was trying to say anything subversive or "playing with hate" as the commenter says. Am I missing something?

No.

This is insane.

It's very funny to me that rock critics can be such babies about criticism...using regular old language...when it's too incisive, particularly in challenging obvious critic-bait like John Zorn's "projects."

"Jesus, that didn't even occur to me"--take ten seconds, Joe, and ask yourself why it didn't occur to you.

It's also funny to me that no one will say exactly what they mean. Perhaps because they know it's nonsense. Maybe they trotted it out later.

If 'jazz' ever becomes a protected characteristic Steve's comments are going to look very bad.

ha--at least he wasn't talking about the blues, which he also claimed to hate reflexively

(I think he said similar things about Laswell, didn't he?)

yes of course, same degree of milking other people's work for your own jagoff bouillabaisse.

anyway, mediocre day, as noted it's an ongoing process. time is sort of meaningless for me. it feels it's been two months but somehow the last time i saw him alive feels like five years ago.

friends,

could you please open another thread on this john zorn thing? it's a very sad, sad time one year after steve has left the many buildings.

thank you.

^ It's easy enough to just change the subject. I don't think that other thing is worth discussing.

I barely knew Steve, but I have listened to and love many albums he recorded or played on, and spent two days in the studio with him. It seems maybe out of proportion, but his death is the second- or third-hardest one I've had to cope with.

I can only imagine what it's been like for many of you who were close to him.

Hugs and best wishes to all of you.

Changed my (our) life. RIP

can someone who can use the word authentically please call the pope a chooch out of respect for the PRF thread we'll never get

big dave wrote: Thu May 08, 2025 6:53 pm can someone who can use the word authentically please call the pope a chooch out of respect for the PRF thread we'll never get

Exsqueeze me?

Krev wrote: Thu May 08, 2025 10:12 am Facebook assholes are the worst. RIP, Steve.

After Steve passed I told one edgelord accusing Steve of being an abuser based on that clearly parody Big Black tour diary of being the Qanon of Indie Rock.

I don’t want to derail the thread any more, but I just want to say it’s nice to see FM big dave again

My little big toddler dude has picked up a couple of favorite songs from the playlist I made when I do daycare pickup/drop off.

Was honestly real moved a few days ago to hear him say "MORE PIRATE" (aka "Scrappers") from his car seat.

The only other song that he's picked up on as much is "MORE ROBOT" by Kraftwerk.

tallchris wrote: Fri May 09, 2025 5:10 pm Was honestly real moved a few days ago to hear him say "MORE PIRATE" (aka "Scrappers") from his car seat.

“We’ll be pirates!”

My kids were also familiar with that Kraftwerk song. I’d randomly say “we are the robots” and then they would go “duuun dun dun dunnnnn” (in pitch)

My kids - late teens - are probably old enough now to appreciate “Prayer to God” in all of the ways it can be appreciated. I think it’s time soon.