Marsupialized wrote:Nerbly, your pussy ass will get that knife taken away from you in about 4 seconds.
It dosen't matter anyway as you'd be scared stiff the second someone started fucking with you, you actually think you'd have the balls to pull a knife on some gangbanger who's robbing you?
Ha!
I'd like to see this

If he doesn't have a weapon, he will run away. I guarantee it. One swipe to his esophagus, and he's a cripple for life.

Sure, I'd be scared, but my logical defense of switchblade-carrying will remain secure in my eyes until someone refutes it, point by point.

Marsupialized, I like you, and I respect your street-smarts, but you need to reply to the argument if you want to change my mind.

NerblyBear wrote:

Mark Hansen wrote:A bunch of nonsense

It's much less dangerous to "brandish" a knife than to point a gun at someone. If you do the latter, you risk being shot if he's carrying a gun. If you do the former, he will either (a) brandish his own knife if he has one, at which point you can run away, or (b) point a gun at you, at which point you can drop the knife and surrender, or (c) run away himself if he has no weapons.

If (c) happens, you just saved yourself from getting the shit beaten out of you and your wallet stolen. Good consequence. If (a) happens, the same will happen, because what you're really trying to figure out, if you get mugged, is if the other guy has a weapon, too. If he's just faking it, you get to keep your wallet and fair features, while he looks like an idiot. If (b) happens, you just give up your wallet and the guy both refrains from beating you up, and you don't get shot.

You're an ass, and you need to think logically if you don't want to get shown up as an ass.

You are truly an idiot.

You sound like someone who has been coddled your whole life, and you think you can fake it in a street altercation?

I was saying if you carry a weapon, be prepared to use it. If that is not logical, what is?

Have you ever even been in a fight?

Someone who THROWS UP when they see violence doesn't really seem like someone who is prepared to use violence if necessary.

If anyone is an ass, look in the mirror, ass-clown.

I suggest you pre-pay for your funeral and gravesite, and save what few people care about you a whole lot of trouble, when you get killed because of your own stupidity.

My god, this is the stupidest thing you have ever said on this forum, and that is saying a lot.

NerblyBear wrote:It's much less dangerous to "brandish" a knife than to point a gun at someone. If you do the latter, you risk being shot if he's carrying a gun. If you do the former, he will either (a) brandish his own knife if he has one, at which point you can run away, or (b) point a gun at you, at which point you can drop the knife and surrender, or (c) run away himself if he has no weapons.

This is possibly the worst logic I've seen outside of creationists and the executive branch.

If (a), you are now in a knife fight. You do NOT turn your back on a man with a knife. If you run, your attacker will be emboldened, probably pursue, and you have a good chance of getting your ass stabbed if he catches you.

If (b), you're just fucked; at least if you'd had a gun on him you could have pulled the trigger when he went for his piece, but no, now you're just the bitch.

There's also (d), which is that the motherfucker might see you holding your bitchass knife like a man who has no idea how to use it and no desire to actually stick the thing in another human being and, your desperate intimidation ploy failed, will kick your ass anyhow.

You do not carry a weapon you are unable to use.

You do not carry a weapon you are unwilling to use.

If you carry a weapon you are unwilling and unable to use, you have just introduced a deadly weapon into any confrontation, without the possibility of controlling it yourself.

That's fucking idiotic.

NerblyBear wrote:

Marsupialized wrote:Nerbly, your pussy ass will get that knife taken away from you in about 4 seconds.
It dosen't matter anyway as you'd be scared stiff the second someone started fucking with you, you actually think you'd have the balls to pull a knife on some gangbanger who's robbing you?
Ha!
I'd like to see this

If he doesn't have a weapon, he will run away. I guarantee it. One swipe to his esophagus, and he's a cripple for life.

Sure, I'd be scared, but my logical defense of switchblade-carrying will remain secure in my eyes until someone refutes it, point by point.

Marsupialized, I like you, and I respect your street-smarts, but you need to reply to the argument if you want to change my mind.

Let me spell it out for you.
I have spent many, many hours hanging out in Atlanta.
Mainly, with the people who will be robbing you.
This is how it'll go down.
He'll walk up and begin robbing you, you reach down with your shaking hand and grab your knife. You hold it out, wobbly and shaky and squeak out a 'you'd better leave me alon....'
WHAM!
He has punched you as hard as he can in the face and taken the knife from you.
You are now on the ground holding your bloody face and he is above you holding your knife. And he PISSED that you pulled a knife on him.

It's not necessary to "be prepared to use it," as I've outlined in my examples, (a), (b), and (c), none of which involve "using it." The knife is a purely protective measure. It's as simple as that.

I think Nerbly has seen too many movies on his parent's giant plasma screen TV

NerblyBear wrote:It's not necessary to "be prepared to use it," as I've outlined in my examples, (a), (b), and (c), none of which involve "using it." The knife is a pure protective measure. It's as simple as that.

We need an emoticon of Nerblybear pushing up the daisies.

If you are not trained in using a knife, your chances of successfully (bad guy is stabbed, you're unharmed) using one in defenence are very little. Unless you count on a psychological effect, but a potential looking for trouble guy is probably used to this. Or you are attacked by a 10 year old.

Mark Hansen wrote:

NerblyBear wrote:It's not necessary to "be prepared to use it," as I've outlined in my examples, (a), (b), and (c), none of which involve "using it." The knife is a pure protective measure. It's as simple as that.

We need an emoticon of Nerblybear pushing up the daisies.

Why would you move to Atlanta of all places anyway, Nerbly?
I don't even like walking around most parts of Atlanta, I get kinda on edge and I usually have at least 5 or 6 local dudes I work with who live there walking with me.
You? They'll fucking kill you, man.

NerblyBear wrote:It's not necessary to "be prepared to use it," as I've outlined in my examples, (a), (b), and (c), none of which involve "using it." The knife is a purely protective measure. It's as simple as that.

Do a test: Take a knife a like object in your hand and do a fake-fight with a friend of yours, who is much bigger than you. In 9 cases out of ten you will get pushed/punched/kicked after your failed attempt at stabbing him. If he has any expierence in any martial art you can be sure your hand will be twised and you will take a hit in no time

edit: i somehow got it all wrong. You're counting on the psychological effect of you flashing a knife at a mugger. I've never been to Atlanta, but I call this tactic suicidal..