Tom wrote:That's an awesome titty joke.

We try

busbus wrote:

Tom wrote:That's an awesome titty joke.

We try

But... your explanation doesn't factor in why he had the rambo knife on the bus in the first place. I suppose it's entirely possible that he was in an long episode that started at home.

I don't know, I'm sure everything will come out, but it was just sort of jarring to see a crime like that described as 2nd degree.

I don't know how accurate this is but..

First and second degree
In Canada, murder is classified as either first or second degree.[31]

First degree murder is a murder which is (1) planned and deliberate, (2) contracted, (3) committed against an identified peace officer, (4) while committing or attempting to commit one of the following offences (hijacking an aircraft, sexual assault, sexual assault with a weapon, aggravated sexual assault, kidnapping and forcible confinement or hostage taking), (5) while committing criminal harassment, (6) committed during terrorist activity, (7) while using explosives in association with a criminal organization, or (8) while committing intimidation. [32]
Second degree murder is all murder which is not first degree murder.

Tom wrote:What the fucking fuck fuck fuck!?


He's being charged with 2nd Degree Murder!
2nd degree!!
Dude gets on a bus with a rambo knife
Stabs a dude 40+ times
cuts his head off, guts him and by some accounts cannibalizes him in front of 34 people...

and this is 2nd degree murder. Does 2nd degree murder mean the same thing in Canada as it does in the US? Or is it more of an insanity thing?

If this actually stays as a 2nd degree murder (as we use it in the US), Canada's legal system is a joke.

I think that in some jurisdictions in the U.S., first-degree murder is reserved for cop-killings. Because, you know, they're the most important people in our society, and killing anyone else is automatically not as serious.

Wow...Just when you thought this story couldn't get any worse...

The Globe and Mail wrote:Reports from the scene indicate the man then ate pieces of the corpse.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ ... equested=1

gmilner wrote:Wow...Just when you thought this story couldn't get any better...

The Globe and Mail wrote:Reports from the scene indicate the man then ate pieces of the corpse.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ ... equested=1

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Frank Decent wrote:First degree murder is a murder which is (1) planned and deliberate

This is pretty much the meat of the law in the states. He didn't know the guy, had no plans to kill him in particular, and probably only vaguely planned to hurt someone.

Same shit happened here in Seattle this year. Homeless fuck kills a woman on her Capital Hill front door stoop, at about 10 pm, and he got 2nd degree charges because he wasn't nutty enough to plea insanity and he didn't plan to kill that woman...

...I should check my local paper real quick to see if I can find linkage.

ubercat wrote:

Frank Decent wrote:First degree murder is a murder which is (1) planned and deliberate

This is pretty much the meat of the law in the states. He didn't know the guy, had no plans to kill him in particular, and probably only vaguely planned to hurt someone.

Uh, if he didn't have plans to kill the guy, why did he stick a knife in him 40 times?

Tom wrote:Uh, if he didn't have plans to kill the guy, why did he stick a knife in him 40 times?

He didn't plan to kill that guy. That's how I understand the law. To get first degree you have to have a motive and a target.

Other strange circumstances can call for 1st degree. Sexual assault, grizzly hatchet murders, etc. So this might eventually fall under 1st.

kazoozak wrote:I'm'a be heading up to Sacramento in a week...

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Sorry, that was in bad taste, but I couldn't resist a little gallows humor. That story is just too horrifying. What a senseless waste. Guy killed somebody, terrified a whole lot of other people and threw his own life away, and for what?

Second-degree murder? WTF?