Asphyxiaphilia wrote:thebookofkevin wrote:things in caps are my contributions to this list
TransistorsGoneWild wrote:Amon Tobin - Chaos Theory-- NOT HIP HOP
Shadow Records Presents Trio Hio for Jazz Junkies
A. Skillz and Krafty Kuts - Tricka Technology
Soulsides Greatest Bumps
Bonobo - Sweetness -- NOT HIP HOP
DJ Shadow and Cut Chemist - Brainfreeze -- KINDOF INSTRUMENTAL HIP HOP, BUT NOT REALLY HIP HOP
DJ Shadow and Cut Chemist - Product Placement -- SEE ABOVE
Cut Chemist meets Shortkut - Live at the Future Primitive
Celph Titled - The Rubix Cuban Bootleg
Celph Titled - The Mothermolestors Bootleg
Dead Prez - Turn off the Radio (The Mix Tape)
*A Warning on Dead Prez: DP is a communist, black supremist hip-hop group. If that bothers you, don't listen to this.
The Demigodz - The Godz Must be Crazy
DJ Cam - Soulshine
DJ Kentaro - On the Wheels of Steel
DJ Krush and DJ Shadow - Live at the Leed UK
Kid Koala - Nufonia Must Fall -- NOT HIP HOP
Gangstarr - Full Clip: A Decade of Gangstarr
Handsome Boy Modeling School - So... How's Your Girl?
Immortal Technique - Revolutiuonary Vol. 2
Jedi Mind Tricks - Legacy of Blood
Kid Koala, DJ Cam, and DJ Shadow - Push Button Objects Live
KRS-ONE - Criminal Minded -- THIS ALBUM IS BY BOOGIE DOWN PRODUCTIONS, NOT KRS-ONE SOLO. BDP = KRS & SCOTT LA-ROCK
Majik Most - Molesting Hip-Hop
Mr. Scruff - Keep it Unreal
The Scratch Perverts - Fabric
The Herbalizer - Something Wicked This Way Comes
Ugress - Cinematronics
U.N.K.L.E. - Psyence Fiction -- NOT HIP HOP
DJ Z-Trip - Shifting Gears
Hopefully you find something interesting in there.
overall, i give this list a "Not Rap," WF KRS & Gangstarr
Granted, stuff like Bonobo, Amon Tobin, and Nufonia Must Fall push the envelope pretty far away from "rap" (though instrumental hip-hop and turntablisim still have a place in this list IMO), but on top of KRS and Gangstarr, you've got Jedi Mind Tricks, Immortal Technique, Handsome Boy Modeling School, Dead Prez, Celph Titled....all as rap as you can get.
And DJ Shadow + Cut Chemist is "NOT REALLY HIP-HOP"?? What exactly are you refrencing when you say "hip-hop"? And how can you get away with throwing Peanut Butter Wolf on your list, but bashing on Shadow?
First and absolutely foremost, I was in no way bashing DJ Shadow. I was making the point that, while his music has roots in turntablism and is most clearly influenced by hip hop, I don't consider his output to be hip hop. It's electronic music that sort of defies genre. I love DJ Shadow's music and am looking foreward to The Outsider very much, but I don't consider it hip hop. I put Peanut Butter Wolf on the list because nearly every song on My Vinyl Weighs a Ton has guest MCs. What I've heard of PBW's first release is mostly instrumental, which is why I listed the album that I listed.
I may have been incorrect about the DJ Shadow / Cut Chemist collab, as I haven't heard much Cut Chemist, but I'm under the impression that he is a DJ and/or beatmaker, and not an MC.
J Dilla's Donuts is another one of those borderline albums that may or may not be hip hop depending on who you ask. This still doesn't mean that I don't think it's one of the best albums of the year so far.
I suppose what this boils down to is how you define hip hop. The basis for my reply to that was primarily that Amon Tobin's Chaos Theory was the first thing on the list. Amon Tobin makes electronic music. He doesn't produce beats for people to rap over, and I don't think that Chaos Theory, of all of his albums has any relation to hiphop whatsoever.
Again, this doesn't mean I don't like the album. In fact, the case is
quite the opposite.
Also, calling Criminal Minded a KRS One album without acknowledging Scott La Rock or that the album is actually credited to Boogie Down Productions is kindof retarded.