cakes wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2026 2:29 pm

zorg wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2026 1:40 pm

Trump told our US partner NBC News overnight that Iran has "lost everything" and a potential ground invasion was a waste of time, adding that he wants the country to have a "good leader" who will do a good job.

How old is that? Because he was just saying we destroyed their military and he's got his leaders picked and also that Iran has to surrender or be destroyed.

This is so confusing, I can barely keep up. I'm sure Iran has had their military infrastructure attacked, but does anyone know what the status is? Are they still bombing? Is this still a war of attrition?

I would assume if he's not going to bring in troops, then Iran is just going to get bombed to high hell and then we'll just install a puppet and wait for the next Iranian revolution to happen.

That's from last night I believe? I don't blame you for not being able to keep up with the stream of nonsense, but I think your assumptions are a safe one.

Gramsci wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2026 1:34 am

llllllllllllllllllll wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2026 8:00 pm

Gramsci wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2026 4:22 pm (Iran) just likely murdered more of their own people than Israel killed in Gaza in a space of a couple of weeks.

Ok, I am breaking my rule where I ignore anything you post about Muslims but you are posting some bangers. What in the fuck are you talking about?

35,000 is the estimate for Iranian protests. It’s actually around 75,000 for Gaza. My bad. Which of course makes it totally okay.

I also find the idea that the estimate for the Iranian protests are politicised, while the Gaza estimates coming from a Hamas run ministry of health problematic at best. It’s entirely possible both are correct or neither are.

I should remind you. It took the Israeli armed forces over two years to reach that number. The wizards in Iran got halfway there in a few weeks. Forgive me, I must have missed all the protests against the mass executions in Iran. But hopefully all the cranes normally used to hang gay men in public squares will be being diverted to clear rubble.

Also, how is this “shit I talk about Muslims”? Are we doing that tankie thing where Russia and Iran are actually really just misunderstood good guys, and their standing up to the US and NATO means they’re “leftist”? Iran is a right wing capitalist theocratic dictatorship. I’m perfectly happy as a leftist to say fuck everything about that government.

Nothing about what I said was anti Muslim. But I am anti clerical to the bone and will never support any form of theocracy. Those who been here long enough will remember long arguments between members about the borderline theocracy that crept in during the Bush terms. No Muslims needed.

BTW. This shit is sickening as well.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/ ... n-rhetoric

See initial comment about holding more than one idea at once. The same way I think Israel did war crimes but Hamas can all be dropped from helicopters into the Med.

Mea culpa on the comparing atrocities. But I do find curated outrage undermines one as much as the other.

Just to be clear. Gaza is as a genocide. The current War of Choice is most likely a war crime. But I’m not shedding a single tear for any member of IRGC or Hamas that ends up a smear on a wall.

You have been bumping a Sam Harris thread for years now but I don’t see how anyone could look at this stuff and truly believe that as many people died in the monarchist/govt/protest shitshow in Iran as have been murdered in Palestine.

You can share guardian links all day but the allied powers attacking Iran are in the midst of a regime change operation, which is war on all fronts. There are constant intelligence and on the ground operations w/ armed factions that play out both in the country and in media propaganda. It’s all been from the same playbook from the past two decades and no one is going to be held responsible for the yellow journalism that later gets refuted. .

A whole lot of shit going on, all of it bad, but the Palestine correlation is still crazy talk.

OrthodoxEaster wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2026 10:51 am

Gramsci wrote: Also, how is this “shit I talk about Muslims”? Are we doing that tankie thing where Russia and Iran are actually really just misunderstood good guys, and their standing up to the US and NATO means they’re “leftist”? Iran is a right wing capitalist theocratic dictatorship. I’m perfectly happy as a leftist to say fuck everything about that government.

Nothing about what I said was anti Muslim. But I am anti clerical to the bone and will never support any form of theocracy. Those who been here long enough will remember long arguments between members about the borderline theocracy that crept in during the Bush terms. No Muslims needed....

See initial comment about holding more than one idea at once. The same way I think Israel did war crimes but Hamas can all be dropped from helicopters into the Med.

Pretty much all of this. Doesn't mean anyone should bomb them, w/ or w/o congressional authorization, but exactly.

Totally possibly to loathe the Iranian government (especially when you have not-remotely-Shahs-of-Sunset-type Persian friends who survived it while having plenty of family still over there) but also think the US "solution" (b/c of Israeli coercion) is way the fuck out of line and will lead to more problems. That's just analysis, as opposed to simplistically turning world events into them-vs-us football games.

It's ironic but unsurprising that some of the loudest voices about this pointless bullshit mess in Iran (which I am also fully against, obviously) make all sorts of excuses for Russia's actions in Ukraine or wholly ignore stuff like the anti-Muslim Uighur genocide (sorry, "re-education") in China.

Half of me thinks that Russia's Ukraine incursion helped open the floodgates for countries like Israel and the US to say, "wait, we can do this again, now?"

Gross world powers gonna act like gross world powers.

Gramsci was responding to something I directly challenged him on but you are just typing I guess? Ukraine what?

I was really incredulous about Iran's claims that Mossad/US agents turned the protests violent until both countries proceeded to bomb it a month later and demand regime change outright.

I'm opposed to the theocracy, but the ayatollah died in the same series of strikes that also wiped out school children. "I'm what's protecting you from the west" sounds like the bluster of a wannabe prophet until . . . well, the west proves him correct.

Rest in piss, obviously, but it's funny how a joint Israeli/US attack can reveal where the villains really are!

gotdamn wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2026 7:54 pm I was really incredulous about Iran's claims that Mossad/US agents turned the protests violent until both countries proceeded to bomb it a month later and demand regime change outright.

I'm opposed to the theocracy, but the ayatollah died in the same series of strikes that also wiped out school children. "I'm what's protecting you from the west" sounds like the bluster of a wannabe prophet until . . . well, the west proves him correct.

Rest in piss, obviously, but it's funny how a joint Israeli/US attack can reveal where the villains really are!

Yeah I just resent even having to make those disclaimers, especially since people are going to read whatever they want into these posts anyways. Any time someone starts with the ‘two things at once’ line of thinking I just tune them out. They’re repeating decade old election memes and it’s not worth responding to, especially they are just making up a guy to get mad at at that point.

The timeline of this last chain of events is damning and it’s really only getting started at this point because Iran has a unique geography that would make a ground invasion very difficult. Iran has already said that a line has been crossed and that they are not accepting terms for a ceasefire, which means Trump is going to figure out how to break a stalemate on a billion dollar a day volley of missiles that can’t be replaced very easily. Trump obviously does not give a fuck on many levels, but I’m still not sure how much more political will the west is going to be willing expend w/ a full scale invasion.

Of course the US will have some totally moderate rebels to go and do the things we’re accusing everyone else of, so terror attacks on civilians and attempted coups are imminent. Govt crackdowns are going to be quick and harsh. It’s well known that the IDF has sources and operatives embedded at all levels in the country, and that doesn’t just mean GI Joe action, but Gladio style operations.

I would not be surprised if nukes were eventually used either. I know everyone here has a brain and I hate feeling like I have to make dumb ass disclaimers, but things can go from bad to worse. As terrible as an oppressive regime can be, the United States has a history of ensuring that what they are going to replace it with something much, much worse, as I noted with the change from Saddam to fucking Isis earlier.

By the way, Iran’s internet is down except for basic local services, but that doesn’t mean that information can’t get out of the country. I’ve heard reports from university workers, photographers and the like, it’s just that the media is going to do what the media has done every single time, which is to print garbage that suits the war effort until the situation is far beyond the point of no return, after which they’ll start backpedaling with new stories. We have been through it all already, although this time it’s probably World War III.

llllllllllllllllllll wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2026 10:58 pm

gotdamn wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2026 7:54 pm I was really incredulous about Iran's claims that Mossad/US agents turned the protests violent until both countries proceeded to bomb it a month later and demand regime change outright.

I'm opposed to the theocracy, but the ayatollah died in the same series of strikes that also wiped out school children. "I'm what's protecting you from the west" sounds like the bluster of a wannabe prophet until . . . well, the west proves him correct.

Rest in piss, obviously, but it's funny how a joint Israeli/US attack can reveal where the villains really are!

Yeah I just resent even having to make those disclaimers, especially since people are going to read whatever they want into these posts anyways. Any time someone starts with the ‘two things at once’ line of thinking I just tune them out. They’re repeating decade old election memes and it’s not worth responding to, especially they are just making up a guy to get mad at at that point.

The timeline of this last chain of events is damning and it’s really only getting started at this point because Iran has a unique geography that would make a ground invasion very difficult. Iran has already said that a line has been crossed and that they are not accepting terms for a ceasefire, which means Trump is going to figure out how to break a stalemate on a billion dollar a day volley of missiles that can’t be replaced very easily. Trump obviously does not give a fuck on many levels, but I’m still not sure how much more political will the west is going to be willing expend w/ a full scale invasion.

Of course the US will have some totally moderate rebels to go and do the things we’re accusing everyone else of, so terror attacks on civilians and attempted coups are imminent. Govt crackdowns are going to be quick and harsh. It’s well known that the IDF has sources and operatives embedded at all levels in the country, and that doesn’t just mean GI Joe action, but Gladio style operations.

I would not be surprised if nukes were eventually used either.

I’d say the chance of that is lower than it was last week. Now they have to rebuild.

By the way, Iran’s internet is down except for basic local services, but that doesn’t mean that information can’t get out of the country.

Case in point:


Once again listen to this guy:

llllllllllllllllllll wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2026 9:58 pm People really show their ass when they start talking about politics outside of their own country.

None of us are experts. It’s not about us or how much we hate Pete & Bibi. It’s about the people inside Iran.

Linking to accounts based out of Europe doesn’t hide how weird those slop accounts are.



Like it takes two seconds to look at them and see what kind of damage that stuff attracts? What is wrong with you?

hbiden@onlyfans.com wrote: Sat Mar 07, 2026 12:55 am None of us are experts. It’s not about us or how much we hate Pete & Bibi. It’s about the people inside Iran.

Yeah, my man. The Serbians really love what you've done with the place in the late 90s. Really liberating stuff!

llllllllllllllllllll wrote: Sat Mar 07, 2026 2:12 am Linking to accounts based out of Europe doesn’t hide how weird those slop accounts are.

The French account had to repost that video with their faces blurred because the Persian account failed to take that precaution. It doesn’t make it slop. That’s just called going viral.

Lu Zwei wrote: Sat Mar 07, 2026 2:50 am

hbiden@onlyfans.com wrote: Sat Mar 07, 2026 12:55 am None of us are experts. It’s not about us or how much we hate Pete & Bibi. It’s about the people inside Iran.

Yeah, my man. The Serbians really love what you've done with the place in the late 90s. Really liberating stuff!

Look, I’m not defending U.S. imperialism. But the Iranian guard isn’t some anti‑imperialist hero. it’s an authoritarian regime that escalates conflicts to maintain power. When they cross certain lines, the people who suffer are civilians in Lebanon, Iraq, Syria, & the Gulf. Preventing a regional spiral that hurts ordinary people is a legitimate concern, even if you distrust American motives.