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So cneutron what did you mean about guest appearances? I ask as I'm becoming quite discouraged with my voice and may not be able to lay down some of the vocals I intended to.. m brother might end up replacing me on some parts, which to me is ok as I really dig his voice, although for the most part his vocal style sits in The Pixies/Flaming Lips area...So...We've developed most of our ideas at this point and are rehearsing and applying final structure to a few tracks... On one of them I (pretty much jokingly) applied an incomplete set of vocals to, and in one way it ruined the song, in another way it made the song too... um, metal-ish, and in another way it highlighted the fact that with only one working vocal chord, I sometimes have an involuntary propensity to have to yell to become hear-able. I also ended up for the most part disliking the simplistic manner in which these lyrics sit on top of the mix, their meter if you will. I'll be totally re-vamping the vocals on this today... I'd kinda like to base them on the creepy harmonization that takes place in the second verse on this draft as I feel that was the only effective use of voice(s) on the track.Warning: the mix is absolute shit, sounds like it's clipping all the way through... but I like to take practice mixes and make them sound burned up, overblown and huge as it becomes easier for me to devise vocals when a song sounds larger and bigger than just a flat practice mix... I'm totally not expecting any thumbs-ups on this track, and it is just one of many riffs/songs that are being assembled at this point. (I really think I should have just uploaded this sans vocals, meh...)http://dl.dropbox.com/u/46353381/onus%2 ... n%2002.mp3

Right on. Those vocals imparted too harsh of a feeling over the guitar/bass/drums, though; believe it or not I'm trying to lay over some fairly calm and melodic vocals over stuff that feels like this... sometimes I've had success with that, and sometimes I've had a real block going on in that regard. Right now- the block. My brother and I are going to focus heavily on that today though; maybe we'll work through it. This albums not going to be ALL spit and bile.

I wish I could shout like that with one vocal cord. All of mine work fine and I end up sounding like an enraged Les Nessman.

bassdriver wrote:Mister Grabski wrote:http://dl.dropbox.com/u/46353381/onus%20war%20ox%20mixdown%2002.mp3rad! I would not worry too much about the sound, you're recording with Steve, it will sound fantastic!And I like the song. I think it will sound great.

Thanks for the feedback! I think I have too many skinny-pants scene kids in my social circle (fans of the band I'm in, Cheebahawk), none of my online acquaintances have given me jack shit for feedback on that tune (I was trolled a little bit humorously but that doesn't count); I think most of them wrinkle their noses at rough demo recordings or stuff that doesn't firmly sit in one genre. I don't know what the hell that tune is, I know that it would leave club patrons happy if played live though, and that matters a hell of a lot more than the hesitancy of a bunch of socially-awkward hoodie-wearers with butter-knife wrist wounds who have unhealthy relationships with The Mars Volta, Adderall and Suboxin.

I was told that that new track is like old Godflesh, a band I honestly haven't ever checked out... but upon reviewing their mid-90s material, damn, they're pretty sweet.... so I took it as a compliment.

Put everything you've got into that album.I wish you nothing but the best of luck. You're inspiring.

I was gonna post in my old Equipment Questions Forum thread, but fuck it (buttfuck it?), I'll just keep everything here.#1. This is a holy shit moment. I've reached out to my very short list of favorite musicians. Mind you I love the inaccessible-to-some stuff like Arabrot and Gay Witch Abortion and Lightning Bolt and Monotonix, but there's some guys who are up high on the thrones of rock to me, and these are the folks I reached out to: Grohl, Homme, and whoever does internet-speak in The Melvins. Grohl and Homme are likely too busy to get back to me, oh well. Well, Coady Willis, drummer of The Melvins as well as drummer of Big Business Murder City Devils, ... ummm, he's sending me his snare to use to record this album with! It's what he used for MCD albums, two Big Business albums, and he said he believes he used it on The Melvins' (a) Senile Animal. FUCK! It's his old favorite snare and I'll be honored to use it. It's an 8 deep Keplinger steel.#2. Historically I use the world's shittiest bass drum pedals, I've always maintained that I want to get good on the shittiest pedals so that when I sit with a good one for a length of time I'll experience a flourish of goodness and sudden ease of playing, and an increase in capability. Today I bought a good pedal, not the best, but a Mapex Raptor Direct Drive. It feels nice, and a hell of a lot better than any of my other pedals, nicer than any other direct drive I've used, and even (to me) feels better than the old and heavy-feeling Iron Cobra I occasionally use with Cheebahawk.#3. I grabbed a little pedal today, something for some bonus noise - an Ohnono Chk Chk Boom. I'll hook it to my freshly-repaired Sunn Beta Lead/Boss ODB-3 combo tomorrow.#4. I also grabbed some much-needed odds/ends... a pedal tuner (I dislike formally tuning but I'll need to for these recordings), more sticks (The new Zildjian Artist Series Grohl sticks are awesome, a little extra length, great weight, great tips... I also grabbed some more huge Regal Tips), I purchased a new ribbon crasher instead of repairing my old one, some spare strings... and tonight or tomorrow I'm pulling the trigger on the crash that will accompany my new 24 ride - a Zildjian A 20 medium crash.Even if I had the equipment of two 15-year-olds in a small-town basement, I'd still be plugging along with material development, but some of this stuff is indeed helping the sound and feel of things as they develop.I didn't know a couple months ago that I'd be suddenly tasking myself with putting all of my material together to make an album, I didn't know that it would need polish, that it would be heard by some artists and engineers that have dealt with some seriously talented artists... I'm feeling REALLY marginal about my skill level and ability, even as this material comes together, but you know what, it's just rock & roll. It's not so serious. This is fun, all of it, and maybe, just maybe, when all of this is assembled, and people are able to purchase this, maybe they'll have fun listening to it, this assemblage of vaguely philisophical lyrics that sit on top of a repetitive of numbingly-distorted guitars, WWII airplane engine-bass and scorned caveman-drum beats. It's the terror of my ways.PRF - thanks for your support.

I don't have jack shit figured out with regards to distribution. Thanks for the compliment on the tune as well... it's a little more me at my center than the other track I posted.

New stuff, a bit different than the last track, vocals are being laid down this weekend... it's a bit of a rough cut, but I like it. EDIT: fixed a small guitar/drum error and re-uploaded, now I'm even happier with it!http://dl.dropbox.com/u/46353381/Bloodn ... ailure.mp3