Whats with all the renditions/paintings/drawings etc. of Jesus where he loooks like a roadie for Jethro Tull? Where the fuck did the concept of Jesus looking like a Rennaisance Fair bongsmoker come from? The only fair skinned light brunnete dudes in Israel in circa 1 A.D. were the Romans, and even they more than likely did not look like they were selling bags of shrooms at a Phish concert.

I found a series of Madonna with Child pictures at a shop in Japan. There were four, one for each season. In each one, Mary was depicted as a typical Japanese bijin, with long black hair and seasonal kimono, and Jesus was a little fat Japanese baby. Cute! I got the "winter" one for my sainted Catholic grandmother; she has it hanging in her dining room.

But I digress. White Jesus = Crap. I was reading some magazine a few years ago where they had actually figured out what Jesus probably looked like. They had a picture. I don't know how to describe it - darker skin and broader nose than an Arab, lighter skin than a subsaharan African. Maybe about like an Ethiopian. Short hair in loose curls, IIRC. The white Jesus has invaded my mind, though, and I can't picture him any other way. Damn you, white-Jesus-pushers! Damn you to hell for ruining my brain in this way!


This is not the picture in my grandmother's apartment, but it gives you an idea of what I'm talking about.

On a related topic: Black Santa = Not Crap.

Actually Christ left us with a portrait of Himself before He ascended into heaven:

matthew wrote:Actually Christ left us with a portrait of Himself before He ascended into heaven:

Man, jesus had some rotten ass teeth.

Boy, could've used some listerine.

-jeremy

I'm down with the Black Jesus (aka Seduto alla sua destra, Seated At His Right and Super Brother):



I haven't seen this movie yet, but it sounds pretty hot.

matthew wrote:Actually Christ left us with a portrait of Himself before He ascended into heaven:

We may already know about the answer to this, but do you actually believe this?

matthew, what the hell is that?
It looks like that shitty fake wood paneling people put in their basements.
Is that what he looked like?
A wall in the basement of some dude's house in suburbia?

Rimbaud III wrote:We may already know about the answer to this, but do you actually believe this?

The shroud gives us a very good idea of what Christ looked like.

I am convinced that this is the shroud that Jesus Christ was buried in. It is not an obligation of faith to accept that it is, and hence it is not the basis of my faith. My conviction that it is is based on overwhelming scientific evidence. It is subject to change however since new evidence may arise that proves that the Shroud of Turin is a forgery........ since it is not a matter of faith and morals to accept it as the actual burial shroud of Christ.

The weight of evidence is overwhelming though. Science cannot explain the origin of the image nor its intricacy and anatomical precision through mere clever forging. My biggest question is this: if it is in fact a forgery, why and how would the presumed medieval forger make a negative image nearly 500 years before the invention of photography?

So you know the answer? Perhaps you are thinking of that guy Wilson up in Idaho? His technique does not stand because since the 14th century the shroud has been exposed to direct sunlight for extensive periods of time, yet no bleaching of the image has occured. His theory hinges on an image that is made on a dark piece of linen by sunbleaching the linen for about 10 days with a piece of glass that has an image painted upon it laid over the linen, thereby blocking the sunlight and creating the image. Furthermore it has been determined that the actual image on the Shroud is a result of carbonization, so his theory is invalid.

Are there any new theories out there? That one is only about a year old and was proposed by a non-scientist. I'm really open to theories that can debunk the whole shroud thing. I just have yet to find one and have instead found alot of "we can't explain the shroud" from the scientific community.