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pro tools vs analog console mixing
Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 11:09 pm
by nick92675_Archive
pro tools vs analog console mixing
Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 11:54 pm
by skatingbasser_Archive
Interesting. I'll listen to this when I'm not drunk.
pro tools vs analog console mixing
Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 12:43 am
by congleton_Archive
performed by digidesign.....
how reliable.
pro tools vs analog console mixing
Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 12:49 am
by Superking_Archive
I can't discern any difference in sound quality between the analog console and the Pro Tools (tm) set up while listening to those terrible songs as they waft over the internet and through the little speakers on my laptop.
Next time I'll take the Beatles record off the turntable while listening. Stay tuned!
pro tools vs analog console mixing
Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 10:13 am
by pyxis360_Archive
It was an incredibly difficult test because the music is the most god awful fucking hideous turds I've ever had to listen to. That dick at the end of "Evergreen" who sings "Evergreen" makes me want to break shit...."Evvverrrr greeeennnn". Dick.
I scored 71% correct on the first one and then got only 1 right on the second test (14%). I couldn't bear finishing the "Jazz" one with that guitar.
Does this test prove anything?
pro tools vs analog console mixing
Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 11:48 am
by davidpye_Archive
I couldn't tell any difference with this source material.
There really wasn't much in the way or ambience in any of the tracks and I find without any real natural ambience I often find it hard to hear the difference between gear, sample rates, or whatever is being tested.
I'd also say the tracks have been mixed in a way which wouldn't make the difference between the desk or tools that obvious as in not using the eq on the desk or any of that.
I suppose it goes to SOME way to show that analogue summing devices aren't totally necessary but then if you get one and you notice a difference then it's all good.
I guess given all that, this test proves nothing, other than really, really shit music sounds the same in protools as it does on an "analog console".
Thanks digidesign, an eye opener for sure.
pro tools vs analog console mixing
Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 11:49 am
by skatingbasser_Archive
"See! See! I bet you couldn't tell which was mixed in PT or a board! See? See? We told you so!!"
This is fucking ridiculous. By not being able to accurately determine which is which you submit they sound the same? What a crock of crap. I got around 50% on them all, as I'm sure most of us did since you've got 50/50 shot to be correct. But how many of you heard no difference between the two? They don't sound the same. End of test.
If you're going to say they aren't that sonically different, a more fair test would be listening to an analog board mix and deciding whether or not a portion of a PT mix was spliced in. Conducted by.. uh, not Digidesign?
pro tools vs analog console mixing
Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 12:19 pm
by davidpye_Archive
OOOHHHH OK, Sorry all I wasn't doing the actual test I just watched the videos that you can download. I just did the loop test I scored:
51% on the shit jazz one
71% on the shit hard rock one
and
71% on the shit "alt" rock one.
So yeah I guess there is a difference and after watching the "How we did this terrible test" video they also DID use plugin dynamics vs analogue dynamics.
So really what this test proves is that really really shit music sounds worse in protools than through a desk. Hmmmm interesting.
pro tools vs analog console mixing
Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 1:55 pm
by Rodabod_Archive
Even though I think this test is meaningless, what sort of dickhead would submit the test files as compressed audio?
Yeah, I like to monitor audio in Quicktime .mov format. Nice.
pro tools vs analog console mixing
Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:14 pm
by davidpye_Archive
That said, if you get info in Quicktime it does say 16Bit 44.1khz, but it definitely sounds very compressed.