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A cow is still a cow.
A war is still a war.

Renaming a mistake will not change my opinion.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4719169.stm

Ummm, I think they are just alittle late on that one. Names are propaganda. Propaganda is only really effective when it's not obvious. This is pretty obvious propaganda...what is the point?

I don't know.
I think Unicorn Bunny Crusade has kind of a nice ring to it.
I still wouldn't support it but I doubt that I'd bitch about it as much.

I only started eating Snickers bars when the name was changed from 'Marathon', so in this respect, yes, I'd find war easier to swallow if it was more effectively euphemised.

If it was renamed 'squatting' we'd currently be engaged in 'squatting on terror', so that gets my vote too. As do 'sexing' and 'coming'.

Cumming on the face of terror!

In recent days, senior administration figures have been speaking publicly of "a global struggle against the enemies of freedom", and of the need to use all "tools of statecraft" to defeat them.

I can think of several "tools of statecraft"...

Bush

Turdblossom (I hear this is widely known in the UK)

bah...

"It''s a far more accurate encapsulation of the conflict and I don't see any reason to criticize it."

I have a few. How about the idea that the state or a group of states are trying to quash a point of view- that is to say, the far sides of an issue- is highly frightening? I'd much rather have them fight terrorists, who are people who commit violent acts, than people whose views are outside the mainstream, or even "far" outside the mainstream.

Second, if it is a "more accurate encapsulation," then we are all in deep shit. So I suppose the people who believe it is ok to defend their country against foreign occupiers are "Extremists" now. Perhaps if they were more moderate, toward the center of the herd, they would buy some dorito's while their country is occupied and their relatives killed and tortured by a foreign power.


""Struggle against extremism" eliminates two culturally loaded words, "war" and "terror," and I think the administration should be applauded for abandoning it."

So then "Extremism"? isn't a culturally loaded word? According to the administration's definitions, Earth first are extremists. So is Greenpeace. And the fact that we are involved in an actual "war" doesn't make the abandonment of the appropriate term for it laudable. The problem is that we are not in a war against "terror," but against a group of people in iraq and afghanistan.

More bullshit and lies from a bullshit administration. They should only be applauded for leaving the white house. If they keep on the track they've been on, that will be their one positive act.

Yeah, what he said!

Wars are winnable. Global struggles have a greater time horizon. Values about the outcome are politically more viable with the later.