Tuff for me as I really dig Tulip and the Lurch ep quite a bit (mega-angst meets mega-scronk - I like) but think the rest feels very superfluous; especially Unlistenable and all the rinky-dink "experimental" Milk Cult stuff, which I think is utter crap. The good stuff is just idiosyncrati...

Tuff for me as I really dig Tulip and the Lurch ep quite a bit (mega-angst meets mega-scronk - I like) but think the rest feels very superfluous; especially Unlistenable and all the rinky-dink "experimental" Milk Cult stuff, which I think is utter crap. The good stuff is just idiosyncratic...

penningtron wrote: Fri Oct 11, 2024 5:03 pm Some good radio singles. The Seeds of Love is peak '80s over-production to a comical degree.

Yes on both counts.

"Serious" to a comically pompous extreme; yet hard to deny the level of craft involved.

Good but not great and that was all we could expect from them given all the nastiness with Bill. I think the Heaven and Hell album was a bit stronger, though.

Rocky Rockbottom wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2024 12:45 am Easy enough Crap vote for me.

Sure, "Killing In The Name" is hard to deny....but alllllll the rest is very, very easy to deny

That's the worst song on the debut.

The ROCK excitement / energy comes from their steller musicianship and that allowed them to function as an explosive live act in a way no other hip-hop group (either with band but ESPECIALLY with no band) couldn't. I think RAtM were a tremendous rock band but man, that's some bullshit. Care to prov...

That really reminded me of Tool circa-Undertow: gothic-ish tinged metal.

Zac's vocals are rooted in hardcore, not rap; he does a great job on that Inside Out 7". Rage's roots are primarily in the cross-pollination world of funk metal. There were some more hip-hop influenced songs on the demo, but they were all astutely cut from the debut. They ain't great: Zac's KRS...

Side note: any Killmen fans who HAVEN'T heard Deadguy's Fixation on a Coworker is doing themselves a great disservice. One of the few records (albeit in a more high t / macho way) to explore this territory.

I personally like Strap it On’s murky sound and would probably be bummed out to hear a remix. Other way round for me; I'd enjoy a remaster at least, the mix is WAY below the level of musicianship. A big problem these great records face now is their absolutely killer clinical aggression became rote ...