Garth wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 11:40 am

yard barf wrote: silent stroke drum heads

Can you speak to this [emphasis mine]:

the remo website description wrote: "Constructed with 1-ply mesh material, Silentstroke™ drumheads provide a soft spring-like feel"

To me, this suggests these would have a similar feel to Roland V-Drums which are b-b-b-b-b-b-boingy...which is fun but maybe not a close substitute to standard acoustic drum heads. Honestly I think the "plastic frisbee" pads feel closer to actual drums than these do if that's the end goal.

Yeah, they are boingy as hell. I find myself being able to do way more intense bouncy shit off those heads than a normal drum head.

It's fun and allows you to get the ideas out there, but it's still not a 1-to-1 silent replacement.

Yeah, the mesh heads kind of feel like hitting a tennis racquet. I tune somewhat tight anyway (been experimenting with bop tuning on my own) so it's not a drastic shift in feel for me. (the sound that comes out isn't so hot, understandably)

four_oclocker_2.2 wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 11:47 am

Garth wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 11:40 am

yard barf wrote: silent stroke drum heads

Can you speak to this [emphasis mine]:

the remo website description wrote: "Constructed with 1-ply mesh material, Silentstroke™ drumheads provide a soft spring-like feel"

To me, this suggests these would have a similar feel to Roland V-Drums which are b-b-b-b-b-b-boingy...which is fun but maybe not a close substitute to standard acoustic drum heads. Honestly I think the "plastic frisbee" pads feel closer to actual drums than these do if that's the end goal.

Yeah, they are boingy as hell. I find myself being able to do way more intense bouncy shit off those heads than a normal drum head.

It's fun and allows you to get the ideas out there, but it's still not a 1-to-1 silent replacement.

yep, they're boingy, even more than Roland V-drums if you have them tuned high. I tuned mine way down and now they're closer to real drums.

Also, rim shots neutralize any differences in feel (though, increase loudness a bit)

I've never tried a rimshot on a V-drum..

penningtron wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 12:26 pm I've never tried a rimshot on a V-drum..

I could swear my old V-drums had a rim shot sound. Although, maybe it was just the sound of the stick whacking the plastic rim, which I guess qualifies.

Dr Tony Balls wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 9:32 am Bout as shallow as it gets. I'd bet you could cut some pieces of foam for each drum and keep em pretty quiet. Plus when you feel the need to be a total badass you can remove the foam and have an all-roto kit.

Woah. Looks like a rim shop, but it is pretty close to what I was imagining. There's probably some room for development here. Are there blues lawyer drummers out there with nice houses, and bad backs to create a market for this the way their guitarists made small vintage amps too expensive? Wish I was the kind of guy who could cash in on an idea like that. Use into whatever mojo buzzwords that drummers have.

I know it must sound like blasphemy to drummers with awesome kits, but guitarists get Bassman amps and Champ amps.

VaticanShotglass wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 7:39 pm Are there blues lawyer drummers out there with nice houses, and bad backs to create a market for this the way their guitarists made small vintage amps too expensive?

This may be along the lines you're thinking (the kick and floor tom open up, hence the latch in the middle, to carry the smaller drums inside)

https://www.sidekickdrums.com/shop/nest ... t-slinger/

It's a step too far for me, as solid 12/14/18 or even 20" sized drums are already pretty easy to carry around.

As far as light these one's are actually pretty cool. Aluminum shell kit, stacked on a scale, that comes in under 25lbs.

https://www.indedrum.com/wafarer-kits/w ... aple-9tmxt

penningtron wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:11 am

VaticanShotglass wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 7:39 pm Are there blues lawyer drummers out there with nice houses, and bad backs to create a market for this the way their guitarists made small vintage amps too expensive?

This may be along the lines you're thinking (the kick and floor tom open up, hence the latch in the middle, to carry the smaller drums inside)

https://www.sidekickdrums.com/shop/nest ... t-slinger/

It's a step too far for me, as solid 12/14/18 or even 20" sized drums are already pretty easy to carry around.

As far as light these one's are actually pretty cool. Aluminum shell kit, stacked on a scale, that comes in under 25lbs.

https://www.indedrum.com/wafarer-kits/w ... aple-9tmxt

On the old board I had a thread about, essentially, loud bands being able to tour in a Subaru Forester. Undersized drums, and especially the nesting drums are so great for saving space. Those aluminum Inde drums look great.

twelvepoint wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:08 am On the old board I had a thread about, essentially, loud bands being able to tour in a Subaru Forester. Undersized drums, and especially the nesting drums are so great for saving space.

Yep! and technically without a kick res head (or the better solution, this around 4:00) any kit can 'nest' to a degree. Just be sure you're playing venues with kick drum mics as you lose a lot of volume without the res head.

Shallow drums you say? How about some Arbiter Flats


None more shallow. And single lug tuning. I used to have a full sized snare with the single lug compression hoops. It was ok but eventually stolen out of the back of a van and went to gear heaven.

Jon