I remember when Pulp Fiction came out and everybody went to the movies to see it and it felt fresh at the time. I remember a lot of people were very excited about the surprise head explosion. Everybody all talking about a movie they saw in a cinema together. Old times. Funny.

I also remember seeing Kill Bill 1 in the cinema and thinking "I am done with this guy, he's a fucking adolescent."

I think he probably does deserve a fair bit of credit for his actors' performances, though. Harry Dean Stanton said anybody can be a great film actor if they have the right director, although he was talking about David Lynch. They just keep reshooting until you do something good, then they cut it all together and make you look amazing. By the same token, a bad director could easily sabotage you.

QT seems to be good at making films. He gets good performances. He's just bad at writing films because he's twelve years old, and that's not a good look for somebody his age.

I did eventually see Kill Bill 2, not at the cinema any more, not having made any effort to see it. And what a pile of bullshit that was. I had to laugh. Stringing people along for a two-parter whose conclusion is a big bag of suck. QT tries to write characters who have a child and... nope, drawing a blank there. What do children even "do"? Does anybody know?

I dropped off at KB1. Pulp Fiction blew me away when it was brand new, and I still have a big soft spot for it.

Basterds left me meh....

Hollywood was great. Really enjoyed it.

Kill Bill 2. The first one was fun enough, but another two hours of this shit? Naaah. I like all his movies though.

I looove Jackie Brown. This got tagged as a Blaxploitation exercise but it's not. Pam Grier and Robert Forster are unexpectedly great leads, the supporting cast is first rate, killer soundtrack. So much good stuff: The slow realization that Robert DeNiro's character might be a fucking idiot, the priceless scene where Bridget Fonda is taunting him in the parking lot because he can't find the getaway car, the fact that the getaway car is her shitty VW van that barely runs, the slow realization that Sam Jackson's character might be a fucking idiot, Michael Keaton's note-perfect portrayal of a douchebag cop (in one scene he's wearing a leather jacket so new it squeaks). And of course Pam Grier Pam Grier Pam Grier.

Once Upon A Time In Hollywood was another home run. The book is pretty much a completely different story with the same characters.

In general, Not Crap.

Kill Bill is one of the worst movies ever made.

Death Proof was also dogshit so I stopped bothering after that. Django is sort of okay but I notice very clearly in the dialogue that kind of self-conscious cleverness that goes back all the way to True Romance, which I used to find appealing and I would guess is what appeals to a lot of other fans, but I came to just not like, so not much you can do about that.

I gave him a chance again with Once Upon a Time, but it was boring and silly.

Didn't like Kill Bill much but just saw it as him making something for himself and indulging his fantasies so gave it a pass. Some parts I enjoyed.

Django was when i officially walked out of cinema concluding "Well that was utter shit."

Loved Pulp Fiction and Jacky Brown as a teenager. Never really cared for Reservoir Dogs.

Fuck off Quentin, go make movies about moon people or wherever the fuck you are from.

This made me laugh. i don't think he has a species though. It would just be a documentary on Quentin by Quentin. Which would be like a motion picture K-hole with slobbering mouth breathing sounds as the score.

I'm gonna say it was after repeated viewings of Pulp Fiction. It simply didn't hold up. His films and filmmaking are gimmicky and there isn't much to it except he gives you something 'cool' to look at.

I liked Jackie Brown, but probably due to him not writing the source material and it was relatively gimmick-lite.

Thing is, I find his films watchable. Like if I'm at a bar or something and they're on, but am I invested? Not really. Maybe if he made a movie WITHOUT guns. Or if he made a movie with guns except instead of bullets they shot rainbows that turned their targets into disco stallions, THEN I might be interested.

But no, it's gonna be churlish violent fantasias. Plus I think he's a misogynist jerk dork-face

Happyman wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 2:17 ami don't think he has a species though. It would just be a documentary on Quentin by Quentin. Which would be like a motion picture K-hole with slobbering mouth breathing sounds as the score.

I love this clip because it's the most Norm has "acted" and not just been Norm, and because it's funny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0imUF8EmDIQ

wm.oliver wrote:Maybe if he made a movie WITHOUT guns.

Or a movie without any gleeful racism or cruelty. I haven't seen the stuntman movie so maybe that's an exception.

After Jackie Brown.

wm.oliver wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 2:34 pm
Plus I think he's a misogynist

I've heard this before and am curious. He sometimes casts women as the lead and/or heroine in his films (Jackie Brown, Kill Bill, Shoshanna in Basterds), does the misogyny show up in his films? Or are there stories about him being a misogynist jerk as a human being? I know there was the incident where Uma Thurman got hurt during a car scene in one of the Kill Bills. He may be a jerk, but I'm having difficulty seeing him as a misogynist.

Voting Kill Bill, though it was really Death Proof that sealed the deal.

I liked Reservoir Dogs, and loved Pulp Fiction; I think the latter may still hold the record for the film I’ve seen the most times in a theater. I missed Jackie Brown upon release because bad word-of-mouth seemed to confirm my perception—from the preview and the TV ads—that it was going to be disappointing.

I thought Kill Bill was puerile and scattershot (an opinion that was not swayed by part 2), but on the merits of Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction, I figured that maybe it was just me — that maybe I didn’t get whatever it was he was doing there. The utter wank job that was Death Proof disabused me of that presumption. I’ve seen everything else he’s done with the exception of Hateful Eight, and only Once Upon a Time in Hollywood has moved the needle on my subsequent presumption that his films probably aren’t going to be worth my time.

Funnily enough, I eventually went back and watched Jackie Brown, and thought it was his best movie to date. Certainly it feels like his last grown-up movie — the last one not to feel like it was made by a precocious 12-year-old.