cakes wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 10:41 am I am really digging Canada's response to all this. Targeting red states, 100% tariffs on Teslas. I have to look into it, but our governor was trying to make a deal with Canada to not fuck Illinois over.

After Trump made so much noise but then backed off in the last trade skirmish, a month ago, I started thinking maybe he actually isn't this stupid. Like he just talks about tariffs to see if he can get other things. Sort of like in a press conference last week where he said other countries pay the tariffs we put on their goods. Is he really actually that stupid, or is he just that big of a liar?

But he's doing it. Shooting himself, and the economy right in the foot with no clear goal stated. It's remarkable really.

Trudeau is going all Letterkenny on Trümp's trade war.

losthighway wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 2:00 pm

cakes wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 10:41 am I am really digging Canada's response to all this. Targeting red states, 100% tariffs on Teslas. I have to look into it, but our governor was trying to make a deal with Canada to not fuck Illinois over.

After Trump made so much noise but then backed off in the last trade skirmish, a month ago, I started thinking maybe he actually isn't this stupid. Like he just talks about tariffs to see if he can get other things. Sort of like in a press conference last week where he said other countries pay the tariffs we put on their goods. Is he really actually that stupid, or is he just that big of a liar?

But he's doing it. Shooting himself, and the economy right in the foot with no clear goal stated. It's remarkable really.

At first, I thought maybe it was just bluster, because that's how he does "negotiations". But since he just went with it, I think he literally wants to crash the economy so the oligarchs can scoop up more wealth and transform our economy to forced slavery with monopolies and low-wage jobs. If this sounds conspiratorial, consider what he said recently, where the best years of the US were the gilded age.

As long as we have turds like Schumer leading the opposition, the Tech Douche Guilded Age will be indomitable. Maybe humanity has run its course.

cakes wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 2:16 pm At first, I thought maybe it was just bluster, because that's how he does "negotiations". But since he just went with it, I think he literally wants to crash the economy so the oligarchs can scoop up more wealth and transform our economy to forced slavery with monopolies and low-wage jobs. If this sounds conspiratorial, consider what he said recently, where the best years of the US were the gilded age.

I try to be careful about conspiratorial thinking these days but I had this same thought. The consolidation of wealth continues.

I'm not sure that what's flagrant is conspiratorial. What else could the end be for the half-cocked chaos they've unleashed? Tariffs always result in recessions, which you don't feel when lead-poisoned idiots keep donating to your ShitPAC.

Krev wrote: I'm not sure that what's flagrant is conspiratorial. What else could the end be for the half-cocked chaos they've unleashed? Tariffs always result in recessions, which you don't feel when lead-poisoned idiots keep donating to your ShitPAC.

A recession is another one of the key ingredients for the rise of the nazi party in Germany. So why not force one, cut a bunch of jobs, continue to give the people nothing, and blame it all on your enemies? It's a bleak time.

I'm thinking the likelihood that Trump and his cabal didn't use the knowledge of when tariffs would be put in place to not benefit from the resultant stock market bloodletting is about zero. Most fun thing about that? It'll be like an ATM machine for them that only takes money away from the rest of us, any time they want it!

This has soured Canadian-US relations for probably a decade - it's going to be a long hard political battle to get back to where things were.

TylerDeadPine wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 1:49 pm This has soured Canadian-US relations for probably a decade - it's going to be a long hard political battle to get back to where things were.

Shit, I hope you and our European friends don't stop there.
This is where we're at. It was always like this. We never cared about you, you were always a disposable asset. And don't lie to yourselves. When you joined us with smiling faces for our world tour of atrocities just so you could sell us your shit and hide behind our apron strings when the baddies were out to get you, it was knowingly. Once the stupid posturing dies down, you'll see everybody bend the knee. You want our weapons. You want our resources. You want to sell us diabetes medication.