Gramsci wrote: Wed Aug 20, 2025 4:23 am

Nate Dort wrote: Tue Aug 19, 2025 6:01 pm Smashing Pumpkins
New Order

I love how Summer has never even tried to learn how to sing…

But yeah, he’s the main reason I don’t listen to New Order.

This is crazy to me. I hear nothing wrong with Sumner post movement.

Now, Movement has its charm how embryonic it sounds compared to the rest with all of them taking turns singing, but I find the rest lovely.

Nate Dort wrote: Tue Aug 19, 2025 6:01 pm New Order

Hang him

Frankie99 wrote: Wed Aug 20, 2025 12:05 pm

Gramsci wrote: Wed Aug 20, 2025 4:23 am

Nate Dort wrote: Tue Aug 19, 2025 6:01 pm Smashing Pumpkins
New Order

I love how Summer has never even tried to learn how to sing…

But yeah, he’s the main reason I don’t listen to New Order.

This is crazy to me. I hear nothing wrong with Sumner post movement.

Now, Movement has its charm how embryonic it sounds compared to the rest with all of them taking turns singing, but I find the rest lovely.

I think it’s just his not being able to project or hold a note. That can be learnt. I just find it nuts he’s clearly never had lessons to fix it. His voice is often flat, very weak and even on single notes seem to struggle.

That’s not to say the tone of his voice isn’t great. I actually “like” his voice.

Bernard is a great singer. you people are nuts

If you think he doesn't get the idea across better than anyone else would on those tunes, i don't really know what to tell ya

I read something about him once that his singing was so affected that it came out the other end as humane. Which rang true.

^Agreed.

Here's mine: Yow.

eephus wrote: Thu Aug 21, 2025 9:39 am Bernard is a great singer. you people are nuts

If you think he doesn't get the idea across better than anyone else would on those tunes, i don't really know what to tell ya

I read something about him once that his singing was so affected that it came out the other end as humane. Which rang true.

I was hoping I wouldn't have to fight this fight alone.

Frankie99 wrote: Thu Aug 21, 2025 12:56 pm

eephus wrote: Thu Aug 21, 2025 9:39 am Bernard is a great singer. you people are nuts

If you think he doesn't get the idea across better than anyone else would on those tunes, i don't really know what to tell ya

I read something about him once that his singing was so affected that it came out the other end as humane. Which rang true.

I was hoping I wouldn't have to fight this fight alone.

I’ll take it one step further:

New Order > Joy Division

andyman wrote: Tue Aug 19, 2025 2:32 pm The Birthday Party. 110%.

I'd say any Nick Cave project, really.

A bold assertion, but y'know, you're not wrong. Especially with The Birthday Party.

major wrote: Thu Aug 21, 2025 1:08 pm

Frankie99 wrote: Thu Aug 21, 2025 12:56 pm

eephus wrote: Thu Aug 21, 2025 9:39 am Bernard is a great singer. you people are nuts

If you think he doesn't get the idea across better than anyone else would on those tunes, i don't really know what to tell ya

I read something about him once that his singing was so affected that it came out the other end as humane. Which rang true.

I was hoping I wouldn't have to fight this fight alone.

I’ll take it one step further:

New Order > Joy Division

Ohh.

I’m okay with Bernard’s vocals, but that’s one step too far for me.

Dude in Girls against Boys annoyed me to no end; it's like he was going for a mix of "grown&sexy" and "bad boyfriend". Ruined the band for me though I didn't find the instrumental aspect of the band too exciting wither